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massenhaft

French translation: (destin individuel) en masse ou en très grand nombre

16:17 Mar 2, 2006

German to French translations [PRO] Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
German term or phrase: massenhaft Massenhaftes Einzelschicksal dans la phrase: Bei der hier zur Debatte stehenden Frage kommt hinzu, daß die Vernichtung der Juden nicht ein massenhaftes Einzelschicksal war, sondern den Juden und dem Judentum als Kollektiv... angetan wurde. Merci!	Béatrice De March KudoZ activity Questions: 572 (none open) (18 without valid answers) (17 closed without grading) Answers: 482 Germany Local time: 12:37
French translation:(destin individuel) en masse ou en très grand nombre Explanation: *	Selected response from: Michael Hesselnberg (X) Local time: 12:37
Grading comment Un grand merci à tous! J'opte pour la version choc proposée par François Liger (destin individuel massif) qui me semble aujourd'hui tout à fait convenir. 4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided
4 +7	à grande échelle	Jean-François Pineau
4 +3	(destin individuel) en masse ou en très grand nombre	Michael Hesselnberg (X)
1 +3	NFG	Platary (X)

Discussion entries: 5

GiselaVigy à Monika: sehr schön ausgedrückt! 09:31 Mar 3, 2006  MOS_Trans Germany Je suis tout à fait d'accord avec Adrien A.. Pour une meilleure compréhension, on aurait pu dire "... dass es bei der Vern. der J. nicht um massenhaft aufgetretene Einzelschicksale ging, ... . 22:01 Mar 2, 2006  GiselaVigy oui, j'ai bien compris, mais je voulais éviter "masse" ... 17:24 Mar 2, 2006  Béatrice De March Germany ASKER 16:47 Mar 2, 2006  Merci Gisela mais il ne s'agit pas de cela ici, mais d'un destin individuel infligé à une masse de personnes. Enfin, si j'ai bien compris. Je cherche une formule élégante... GiselaVigy un destin individuel revécu à l'infini (répété) 16:34 Mar 2, 2006  Automatic update in 00:

  

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1 min   confidence: peer agreement (net): +7

à grande échelle Explanation: -	Jean-François Pineau Local time: 12:37 Native speaker of: French
Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer) agree  Claire Bourneton-Gerlach 20 mins agree  Artur Heinrich: destin individuel à grande échelle 28 mins agree  lorette: et moi je dirais "infligé à grande échelle" !! 30 mins agree  Sylvain Leray: appliqué à grande échelle, dirais-je ici... me trompai-je ou est-ce un oxymore ? 33 mins agree  Geneviève von Levetzow 59 mins agree  FredP 1 hr agree  GiselaVigy 1 hr
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4 mins   confidence: peer agreement (net): +3

(destin individuel) en masse ou en très grand nombre Explanation: *	Michael Hesselnberg (X) Local time: 12:37 Works in field Native speaker of: German, French PRO pts in category: 72
Grading comment Un grand merci à tous! J'opte pour la version choc proposée par François Liger (destin individuel massif) qui me semble aujourd'hui tout à fait convenir.
Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer) agree  Irene Besson 3 mins   -> danke ! agree  Artur Heinrich: destin individuel en très grand nombre 25 mins agree  fcl: "destin individuel massif". Je garderais la formulation "choc", aussi paradoxale en allemand qu'en français, mais qui est explicitée immédiatement après, dans la proposition suivante. 3 hrs
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50 mins   confidence: peer agreement (net): +3

NFG Explanation: Béatrice dit : "mais d'un destin individuel infligé à une masse de personnes" Je ne pense pas que ce soit la bonne interprétation. Je vois les choses ainsi (je ne propose cependant pas de traduction) : L'extermination n'a pas une fatalité individuelle, mais collective, même si le nombre, la masse, de destins individuels ainsi brisés pourrait laisser penser le contraire. Si je n'ai pas réussi à exprimer ce que je ressens, je vous prie de m'en excuser, mais voilà ce que je comprends.	Platary (X) Local time: 12:37 Native speaker of: French PRO pts in category: 11
Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer) agree  MOS_Trans: exactement ! 4 hrs   -> Merci infiniment ! agree  FredP: un "agree" pour ce superbe exposé! 13 hrs   -> Point trop n'en faut, mais j'apprécie le compliment ! agree  GiselaVigy: oui, bravo!!! 16 hrs   -> C'est gentil, merci !
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