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'frei Werk' bzw. 'ab Werk'

English translation: DDP Delivered Duty Paid vs. FCA Free Carrier

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German term or phrase:'frei Werk' bzw. 'ab Werk'
English translation:DDP Delivered Duty Paid vs. FCA Free Carrier
Entered by: CarDel

22:51 Jul 26, 2006
German to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Transport / Transportation / Shipping
German term or phrase: 'frei Werk' bzw. 'ab Werk'
This is the sentence:

Neben der Preisstellung „Frei Werk/Ab Werk“ sind die Logistikkosten und deren Prämissen ab „Fertigstellung Produkt“ im Erfassungsbogen Supply Cost Breakdown anzugeben.

How would the terms 'frei Werk' and 'ab Werk' be rendered in English?

Thanks
CarDel
Local time: 03:44
DDP ...'s factory vs. FCA ...'s factory
Explanation:
You provided the answer yourself when giving additional context:

FCA = Free Carrier... (frei Frachtführer...[vereinbarter Ort] = in diesem Fall Werk)

DDP = Delivered Duty Paid (Frei verzollt ... [vereinbarter Bestimmungsort im Einfuhrland] = in diesem Fall Werk).

See: http://www.zollbuero.de/Incoterms.HTM

"Frei Werk (DDP)" bedeutet also nicht nur "carriage paid", sondern "carriage and DUTY paid" bis - in diesem Fall - zum Werk.
"Ab Werk FCA" ist nicht einfach "ex works", sondern "free carrier" - das heißt, ab einem vereinbarten Lieferort, der nicht unbedingt das Werk sein muss (auch wenn es in diesem Fall so ist). Die obige Seite erklärt genauer, was FCA bedeutet.
Selected response from:

Ulrike Kraemer
Germany
Local time: 10:44
Grading comment
Thanks so much for the clarification!
The 'C' in the abbreviations suggested they might be English, but for all I knew it referred to a supplier's name.
Awesome - this is what Proz is for.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +2ex works
BirgitBerlin
4 +1DDP ...'s factory vs. FCA ...'s factory
Ulrike Kraemer
3 +1'carriage paid to factory' vs. ex factory
Christine Lam


Discussion entries: 2





  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
ex works


Explanation:
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BirgitBerlin
Germany
Local time: 10:44
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 6

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ingeborg Gowans (X): exactly, according to def. in dictionary... you beat me to the post
3 mins
  -> Thank you! My last good deed for today, good night! ;-)
agree  Elizabeth Gahbler: agree too, it's what I use as well as what my customers want
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54 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
'carriage paid to factory' vs. ex factory


Explanation:
they should be two different terms, that's why I am posting a separate answer from Brigit's

CARRIAGE PAID TO (... named place of destination) This term means the seller pays ... Accordingly, freight/carriage paid to" can be used for all modes of ...
www.confreightair.com/incoterms.htm - 29k

The CNPC has raised the ex-factory prices for both gasoline and diesel by 60 ... Analysts said the increase in the ex-factory prices could push retail and ...
www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-06/08/content_337723... - 22k

HTH

Christine Lam
Local time: 04:44
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 20

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Trudy Peters
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
DDP ...'s factory vs. FCA ...'s factory


Explanation:
You provided the answer yourself when giving additional context:

FCA = Free Carrier... (frei Frachtführer...[vereinbarter Ort] = in diesem Fall Werk)

DDP = Delivered Duty Paid (Frei verzollt ... [vereinbarter Bestimmungsort im Einfuhrland] = in diesem Fall Werk).

See: http://www.zollbuero.de/Incoterms.HTM

"Frei Werk (DDP)" bedeutet also nicht nur "carriage paid", sondern "carriage and DUTY paid" bis - in diesem Fall - zum Werk.
"Ab Werk FCA" ist nicht einfach "ex works", sondern "free carrier" - das heißt, ab einem vereinbarten Lieferort, der nicht unbedingt das Werk sein muss (auch wenn es in diesem Fall so ist). Die obige Seite erklärt genauer, was FCA bedeutet.

Ulrike Kraemer
Germany
Local time: 10:44
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 22
Grading comment
Thanks so much for the clarification!
The 'C' in the abbreviations suggested they might be English, but for all I knew it referred to a supplier's name.
Awesome - this is what Proz is for.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Steffen Walter: Auch hier: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/INCOTERMS
1 hr
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