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Wirtshaus-Romantik

English translation: (rustic) tavern romanticism (atmosphere)

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German term or phrase:Wirtshaus-Romantik
English translation:(rustic) tavern romanticism (atmosphere)
Entered by: Bernhard Sulzer

17:42 Jan 9, 2009
German to English translations [PRO]
Marketing - Tourism & Travel
German term or phrase: Wirtshaus-Romantik
A text about Bavaria. First a list of all the "corny" things associated with Bavaria (Maß Bier, Weißwurst, Gamsbart etc.) then it continues "Bayern ist jedoch abseits der Wirtshaus-Romantik auch Heimat unzähliger internationale Wirtschaftunternehmen..."
Lesley Robertson MA, Dip Trans IoLET
Austria
Local time: 09:28
rustic tavern romanticism (atmosphere)
Explanation:
or:
Bavarian tavern romanticism (atmosphere)

two ideas

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http://osiris22.pi-consult.de/view.php3?show=5100005070739
wine tavern romanticism

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or maybe:

convivial/rustic atmosphere of its taverns

http://www.paulaner-braeuhaus.de/english/konzepte/konzept_pa...
convivial atmosphere

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two more:

idyllic taverns /idyllic tavern atmosphere
idyllic atmosphere of its taverns (inns)

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or maybe: romanticized taverns / romanticized tavern atmosphere (culture)

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tvern romanticism might work by itself - as suggested by two colleagues;
alos, you might consider leaving out "romantic" / "romanticized" and use
"atmosphere" of its (rustic) taverns (as I suggested earlier) or
maybe "charm" of its rustic (traditional) taverns (and inns)" as suggested elsewhere.

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sorry - corr.: "tavern romanticism for "tvern romanticism"; and "also" for "alos"; - it's my slow laptop.


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I think what's important here for the right term is the way it is meant to be characterized in your text. From the short context, it seems to me that it is not simply described as charming and romantic in the sense of "wonderful and cozy" but the text seems to be commenting on it from a certain emotional distance attesting a certain (somewhat exaggerated) fondness.

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Having said that, terms like "charm" or "romantic" might not be what you want. It would be too positive a description. I think distance is needed which the word romanticized/romanticism would give you (IMO).
But there are a lot of good suggestions here (all colleagues included) and I am sure you will find one that fits the tone you want to use.
Selected response from:

Bernhard Sulzer
United States
Local time: 03:28
Grading comment
Thankyou! You're certainly the King of addendums if nothing else!!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +6the romantic appeal of rustic restaurants
Paul Cohen
3 +3rustic tavern romanticism (atmosphere)
Bernhard Sulzer
4 +1idealized tavern culture
Lonnie Legg
4apart from the romantic inn (or alehouse) atmosphere
Ellen Kraus


  

Answers


17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +6
the romantic appeal of rustic restaurants


Explanation:
Aside from the romantic appeal of rustic restaurants, Bavaria is home to a wide range of international companies...



Paul Cohen
Greenland
Local time: 06:28
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 36

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Trudy Peters: I like that, too ;-)
4 mins
  -> "Romantic Rustic Restaurants Reap the Rewards of Regional Romanticism" ;-)
agree  Steffen Walter: Along the lines of the "Laptop und Lederhose" slogan once coined by a certain Edmund Stoiber ;-) / http://www.br-online.de/bayern/wege-und-ziele/bayern-for-beg...
40 mins
  -> Exactly ;-)
agree  caro.tulu
1 hr
agree  Ingeborg Gowans (X)
1 hr
agree  Stephen Gobin: Like how you've managed to deal with "Romantik" here. Could possibly ditch "Romantik" altogether and use "rustic charm of its (traditional) inns and taverns".
13 hrs
  -> Thanks, Stephen. Yes, "Romantik" can be a slippery fish and it's tempting to drop it altogether. Your suggestion is excellent.
agree  Paul Skidmore: I like Stephen's version best
16 hrs
  -> That makes two of us!
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
apart from the romantic inn (or alehouse) atmosphere


Explanation:
or the romantic atmosphere prevailing in its inns. Wirtshaus is no restaurant.

Ellen Kraus
Austria
Local time: 09:28
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 20
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
idealized tavern culture


Explanation:
The more literal options, romantic/romanticized, imo don't clearly convey the critical distancing implied in "Romantik", so I'd prefer a freer phrasing:
"Aside from the idealized tavern culture, ..."


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Sorry, that should read: "Aside from its often idealized tavern culture, Bavaria..."

Lonnie Legg
Germany
Local time: 09:28
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Bernhard Sulzer: I agree with your suggestion for "critical distancing"
14 hrs
  -> thanks, Bernhard.
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
rustic tavern romanticism (atmosphere)


Explanation:
or:
Bavarian tavern romanticism (atmosphere)

two ideas

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Note added at 8 mins (2009-01-09 17:51:15 GMT)
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http://osiris22.pi-consult.de/view.php3?show=5100005070739
wine tavern romanticism

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Note added at 14 mins (2009-01-09 17:57:01 GMT)
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or maybe:

convivial/rustic atmosphere of its taverns

http://www.paulaner-braeuhaus.de/english/konzepte/konzept_pa...
convivial atmosphere

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Note added at 5 hrs (2009-01-09 23:42:35 GMT)
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two more:

idyllic taverns /idyllic tavern atmosphere
idyllic atmosphere of its taverns (inns)

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Note added at 6 hrs (2009-01-09 23:45:55 GMT)
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or maybe: romanticized taverns / romanticized tavern atmosphere (culture)

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Note added at 16 hrs (2009-01-10 10:32:07 GMT)
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tvern romanticism might work by itself - as suggested by two colleagues;
alos, you might consider leaving out "romantic" / "romanticized" and use
"atmosphere" of its (rustic) taverns (as I suggested earlier) or
maybe "charm" of its rustic (traditional) taverns (and inns)" as suggested elsewhere.

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Note added at 17 hrs (2009-01-10 10:44:14 GMT)
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sorry - corr.: "tavern romanticism for "tvern romanticism"; and "also" for "alos"; - it's my slow laptop.


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Note added at 17 hrs (2009-01-10 11:21:44 GMT)
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I think what's important here for the right term is the way it is meant to be characterized in your text. From the short context, it seems to me that it is not simply described as charming and romantic in the sense of "wonderful and cozy" but the text seems to be commenting on it from a certain emotional distance attesting a certain (somewhat exaggerated) fondness.

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Note added at 17 hrs (2009-01-10 11:29:58 GMT)
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Having said that, terms like "charm" or "romantic" might not be what you want. It would be too positive a description. I think distance is needed which the word romanticized/romanticism would give you (IMO).
But there are a lot of good suggestions here (all colleagues included) and I am sure you will find one that fits the tone you want to use.

Bernhard Sulzer
United States
Local time: 03:28
Works in field
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 20
Grading comment
Thankyou! You're certainly the King of addendums if nothing else!!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Trudy Peters: I like the first one with romanticism
15 mins
  -> Thanks, Trudy. :) Zum Wohl!
agree  Christian Schneider: (rustic) tavern romanticism
1 hr
  -> danke Christian. Ja, viell. einfach "its tavern romanticism"
agree  Barbara Wiebking: Tavern romanticism is good.
16 hrs
  -> thank you very much, kriddl! HNY!
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