Arkandisziplin / Arkanprinzip
English translation: disciplina arcani / tenet of silence
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secret discipline Explanation: gets several googles suggesting this as the English translation of Arkanprinzip -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 15 mins (2007-01-17 21:32:40 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- "arcane discipline" also gets its share of googles in this regard -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 16 mins (2007-01-17 21:33:51 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- for "arcane principle" see http://techhouse.brown.edu/~jleen/calchas/aspects.html -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 21 mins (2007-01-17 21:38:45 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Webster for "arcanum"= the mystery of mysteries; specifically: the one ultimate secret supposed to lie behind all astrology, alchemy, and magic |
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mystic discipline / mystic principle Explanation: Mainly based on a hunch (plus Jonathan's answer and plenty of Google hits). |
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peer agreement (net): +1tenet of silence Explanation: Unter “mystischem Schweigen” versteht man eigentlich das plötzliche Verstummen nach einem ekstatischen Erlebnis wie einer Vision/Schau (wird z.B. von Thomas v. Aquin berichtet). www.doctor-angelicus.de/meister.htm In diesem Sinn wird “mystisches Schweigen” auch heute noch in anderen, journalistischen Kontexten verwendet. www.weltordnung.de/meinung.htm Insofern erschließt sich mir die Bedeutung des Satzes “Im Christentum wurde das mystische Schweigen seit dem 17. Jhdt. 'Arkandisziplin' genannt" nicht so recht... Aber Du suchst ja auch nur eine Übersetzung für “Arkandisziplin” :-) Den Definitionen nach handelt es sich dabei um ein Gelöbnis, gewisse esoterische Erkenntnisse/Erlebnisse nur unter Eingeweihten zu besprechen und anderen gegenüber nicht zu offenbaren. How about ‘observing the tenet of silence/ code of silence/ vow of silence regarding arcance insights/experiences.’ |
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arcanum discipline Explanation: Why not go for a literal translation as the explanation in "common" English is included in the sentence anyway. AFAIK, "arcanum discipline" is established in English as well (see e.g. ref. below). Reference: http://epublications.bond.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article... |
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esoteric discipline Explanation: I'm slightly out of my depth here but my understanding was that this is how we refer to any practice, belief system etc known only to/practised only by a few: ' In Part Three, it becomes clear how the "science of love" is no longer an esoteric discipline for monks and nuns' http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?... If you want to keep it specific, however, what's wrong with 'arcane discipline'? The phrase seems to have been particularly favoured by Bonhoeffer: 'This, along with a few other tantalizing references to the "arcane discipline" of the early church, suggests that Bonhoeffer believed that...' http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_9_122/ai_... 'The knowing that would underpin this ‘religionless’ form for individual Christians was what he described as ‘the arcane discipline’' http://dlibrary.acu.edu.au/research/theology/ejournal/aejt_6... |
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arcane discipline / disciplina arcani Explanation: Contrary to your assertion that this phrase cannot be used, I assert that the word "discipline" is not just "a discipline = a praxis", but also "discipline = a set of rules of behaviour". So semantically, the "arcane discipline" could be exactly what you describe. Googling this gave a few differing examples: http://www.lcms.org/ca/www/cyclopedia/02/display.asp?t1=D&t2... Disciplina arcani (Lat. “discipline of the secret”). Term used since the 17th c. for the withholding of certain parts of Christian teaching and worship from pagans and from catechumens till the last stages of their preparation. Some scholars find an approach to this practice in some NT books (e.g., Rv). Justin* Martyr seems not to know the practice but there may be traces of it in the ch. order ascribed to Hippolytus* of Rome. The most extensive use occurs in the era of mass conversions after the end of the persecutions AD 313 (see Persecution of Christians, 4). At this time it included the rites, ceremonies, and statements of the significance of Baptism and Holy Communion, and such liturgical forms as the Creed and the Lord's Prayer. The arcane discipline disappeared almost wholly in the 5th c. ACP http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/arcane_schools/part_3.htm ARCANE DISCIPLINE. This system was in vogue in the church of Christ between the first and fourth centuries of our era. .... -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 20 hrs (2007-01-18 18:09:56 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Here's a very extensive entry, which directly links the above Latin term to your German term, under the English entry "Discipline of the secret" http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05032a.htm |
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