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Strolchenfahrt

English translation: joyriding

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German term or phrase:Strolchenfahrt
English translation:joyriding
Entered by: Ian M-H (X)

15:15 Mar 6, 2005
German to English translations [PRO]
Other / possibly a Swiss term
German term or phrase: Strolchenfahrt
This is from a Swiss business liability insurance policy. One of the exclusions is:

"bei Strolchenfahrten: die Haftpflicht von Personen, die das Fahrzeug zum Gebrauch entwendet haben, und diejenige des Lenkers, der bei Beginn der Fahrt wusste oder bei pflichtgemässer Aufmerksamkeit wissen konnte, dass das Fahrzeug zum Gebrauch entwendet wurde;"

Is this "joyriding"? The term isn't defined precisely enough for me to be sure and I cannot find a single Google hit for it, let alone anything in the glossaries I've tried.

PS: I'm putting this into "other/other" as I suspect people will be able to answer who don't necessarily specialise in law or insurance...
Ian M-H (X)
United States
Local time: 16:53
joyriding
Explanation:
Taking someone else's car for a spin

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Note added at 1 min (2005-03-06 15:16:46 GMT)
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The exclusion is necessary because (as you may/probably know), GAS car insurance policies are tied to the vehicle, not the driver
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JeffFish (X)
Local time: 22:53
Grading comment
Thanks JeffZ, Kim and all. Andrew is not wrong about TWOCing, but (as JeffZ points out) it doesn't seem to be widely used in insurance policies.

Apologies once again for posting this question without doing enough research first - but at least it's now in the KudoZ database.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +8joyriding
JeffFish (X)
4 +1joyriding
Kim Metzger
4taking without owner's consent (TWOC)
Lancashireman


Discussion entries: 6





  

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0 min   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +8
joyriding


Explanation:
Taking someone else's car for a spin

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Note added at 1 min (2005-03-06 15:16:46 GMT)
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The exclusion is necessary because (as you may/probably know), GAS car insurance policies are tied to the vehicle, not the driver

JeffFish (X)
Local time: 22:53
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Thanks JeffZ, Kim and all. Andrew is not wrong about TWOCing, but (as JeffZ points out) it doesn't seem to be widely used in insurance policies.

Apologies once again for posting this question without doing enough research first - but at least it's now in the KudoZ database.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kim Metzger: Fast Eddy hat eine lange Leitung heute.
3 mins
  -> armer eddy :-(
agree  Kathi Stock
3 mins
agree  Shane London: Yes. Taking a stolen car for a spin
4 mins
agree  Bjørn Anthun
27 mins
agree  writeaway
1 hr
agree  Lancashireman: JeffZ at 0:00 mins!
1 hr
agree  Johanna Timm, PhD
1 hr
agree  Christine Lam
3 hrs
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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
joyriding


Explanation:
Joyriding is the term I'd use as an American.
Duden - Strolchenfahrt = Fahrt mit einem entwendeten Fahrzeug

Kim Metzger
Mexico
Local time: 14:53
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 45

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  writeaway: Fast Eddy need a tuning chip?
1 hr
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
taking without owner's consent (TWOC)


Explanation:
OK. I know that this one is nearly 4 hours old and I've already signed up to one of the above BUT the police do not use the term 'joyriding' as it is seen to put too positive a gloss on an antisocial (criminal even!) activity. The term used in UK police records is 'taking with out owner's consent' (and after all UK leads the world in this crime). The 'joyriders' have meanwhile adopted the term for themselves and laughingly boast about 'twocking'.

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Note added at 4 hrs 0 min (2005-03-06 19:15:45 GMT)
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with out > without

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Note added at 4 hrs 21 mins (2005-03-06 19:36:32 GMT)
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Taking Without Consent
This is driving off with someone\'s car or motorbike without permission. It is often known as \'TWOCing\'. TWOC = taking without the owner\'s consent.
http://www.rizer.co.uk/access/default.asp?pg=info&art=crimes...

And one from the USA
Taking Without Owner\'s Consent. – If any person shall wilfully, or mischievously take, drive, or use any motor vehicle without the consent of the owner or person having control thereof, but not with intent to steal the same, he shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XXI/262/262-12.htm

Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:53
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 32

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  JeffFish (X): Your ability to research this stuff never ceases to amaze me! Nonetheless, I don't think this term has made it into the fine print of US/UK insurance policies yet. Not a single google in the insurance context. Doesn't make it wrong, just not widespread
12 hrs
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