Ueberlieferung ( in this context)

English translation: history of origins

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German term or phrase:Ueberlieferung ( in this context)
English translation:history of origins
Entered by: Helen Jordan

15:14 Feb 3, 2005
German to English translations [PRO]
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German term or phrase: Ueberlieferung ( in this context)
Die identischen Farbkombinationen der Codices aus Oxford und Reggio, die in ihrer Ueberlieferung nicht unmittelbar voneinander abhängen, sprechen jedoch gegen eine willkürliche Wahl des Kolorits.

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Helen Jordan
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history of origins
Explanation:
"Überliefeung" seems to be "Entstehungsgeschichte" in this context.
Their history of origins is not directly connected
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Valeska Maier-Wörz
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4 +1historically (in this context)
Nesrin
3 +1history of origins
Valeska Maier-Wörz
4tradition / transmission
Gabrielle Lyons
3convention
rangepost


  

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convention


Explanation:
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rangepost
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historically (in this context)


Explanation:
That's how I understand it - they are historically unconnected.

Nesrin
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agree  gangels (X): historically independent of each other
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history of origins


Explanation:
"Überliefeung" seems to be "Entstehungsgeschichte" in this context.
Their history of origins is not directly connected

Valeska Maier-Wörz
Local time: 08:45
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PRO pts in category: 6
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agree  Johanna Timm, PhD
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tradition / transmission


Explanation:
The terms used in manuscript studies - admittedly I'm rusty and was dealing with texts rather than illuminations.
The authors point is that the two codices are not directly descended from each other (neither is a copy of the other, or of a copy of the other). This means that their use of identical colour suggests that colour choice was bound by set conventions.
e.g. "The Digby MS thus provides a form of the text which belongs to a tradition different from, and independent of, that represented y the a versions. Of the two traditions, that contained in the Digby MS is certainly the older." from La Chanson de Roland ed. Whitehead.

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Note added at 1 hr 26 mins (2005-02-03 16:40:49 GMT)
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If the two came from the same tradition, the identical colours could result from faithful copying - not proving anything about widespread cultural rules.

Gabrielle Lyons
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