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auf höherem Wind

English translation: on higher wind pressure

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German term or phrase:auf höherem Wind
English translation:on higher wind pressure
Entered by: Johanna Timm, PhD

10:55 Jun 11, 2006
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Music
German term or phrase: auf höherem Wind
I have this in a description of a recently built large organ:

"In der Mitte befinden sich die besonders markanten, kupferroten Horizontaltrompeten auf höherem Wind, im Prospekt deutlich auszumachen."

Is this "auf höherem Wind" a German expression that I don´t recognise?

Or maybe it is an indication that these pipes have higher wind pressure than others (but I found no other evidence of this in the specification)?

Or is this sentence victim of a typo (it wouldn´t be the only one in the document)?

All suggestions gratefully received.
Chris Rowson (X)
Local time: 12:24
on higher air pressure
Explanation:
I'm not very confident about this, except that it makes sense as a translation and trumpet stops with higher wind pressure are not uncommon in larger organs.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-06-11 14:46:25 GMT)
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I suggest you check out www.organstops.org. There is an entry on "horizontal trumpet", also known as "trompette en chamade", which complains that this stop is often included as a status symbol, and that the volume is often greater than the rest of the organ put together. It doesn't say this, but it rather suggests that a higher pressure would be required.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-06-11 14:50:10 GMT)
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BTW Horizontal Trumpet is an 8-foot stop: it doesn't sound any higher than the standard diapason.
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Richard Benham
France
Local time: 12:24
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Johanna´s venture into unknown territory was very impressive, and came in useful for another translation, as did her glossary – thankyou! However, in this case I´m sure Richard has this right: I found a statement later in the text that the section which contains these stops has higher wind pressure.

I also agree that these things are often status symbols. As far as I know, they were originally a Spanish feature, and were only picked up by other builders in the last 20 years or so. This organ apparently aspires to particularly high status: it has both an 8´ and a 4´.
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Summary of answers provided
4 -1high-(re)sounding pipes
Martin Wenzel
3on higher air pressure
Richard Benham
2on a higher stop channel
Johanna Timm, PhD


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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
high-(re)sounding pipes


Explanation:
What they mean is that this pipes sound higher, but they do stand out from the others because of their colour

I don't think you need to say higher sounding...

Martin Wenzel
Germany
Local time: 12:24
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish

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disagree  Richard Benham: This doesn't exactly make a lot of sense.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
on higher air pressure


Explanation:
I'm not very confident about this, except that it makes sense as a translation and trumpet stops with higher wind pressure are not uncommon in larger organs.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-06-11 14:46:25 GMT)
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I suggest you check out www.organstops.org. There is an entry on "horizontal trumpet", also known as "trompette en chamade", which complains that this stop is often included as a status symbol, and that the volume is often greater than the rest of the organ put together. It doesn't say this, but it rather suggests that a higher pressure would be required.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-06-11 14:50:10 GMT)
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BTW Horizontal Trumpet is an 8-foot stop: it doesn't sound any higher than the standard diapason.

Richard Benham
France
Local time: 12:24
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Johanna´s venture into unknown territory was very impressive, and came in useful for another translation, as did her glossary – thankyou! However, in this case I´m sure Richard has this right: I found a statement later in the text that the section which contains these stops has higher wind pressure.

I also agree that these things are often status symbols. As far as I know, they were originally a Spanish feature, and were only picked up by other builders in the last 20 years or so. This organ apparently aspires to particularly high status: it has both an 8´ and a 4´.
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15 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
on a higher stop channel


Explanation:
Caveat: This suggestion is strictly based on googling - music is not my field of expertise.

I googled the phrase “Auf einer gemeinsamen Registerkanzelle” and found this statement:

“Diese Pfeifenanordnung in Verbindung mit der elektrischen Traktur der Pfeifen durch Hülsenmagnete wurde gewählt, damit alle Pfeifen auf einer gemeinsamen Registerkanzelle ("auf einem Wind") stehen können.”
http://www.eufonia.de/deutsch/orgel.php

It follows that that “auf höherem Wind” = "auf einer höheren Registerkanzelle”

Now for the term Registerkanzelle:
Starting with a definition:
Registerkanzelle: Bei den Registerkanzellen stehen über einer Kanzelle alle zu einem Register gehörenden Pfeifen. Wird eine Taste gedrückt, öffnen sich alle Ventile, die zu diesem Ton gehören, auch die der nicht eingeschalteten Register. Da sich aber nur in den Registerkanzellen der eingeschalteten Register Wind befindet, klingt nur das erwünschte Register.
Source: www.kollegiorgel.ch/lexikon_uebersicht.html?& tx_rhuglossary_pi1%5Bentry%5D=337&cHash=4297fba5b2 - 37k

English term for (Ton) Kanzelle: bar or channel
English term for Register: stop
Source: http://www.baroquemusic.org/orgdict.html

>>>ergo: Registerkanzelle= stop channel

Based on the quote above( auf gemeinsamem Wind.),
‘Auf höherem Wind” would mean: “on a higher stop channel”

As I said, I'm not an expert, but maybe this helps somebody else to point you to the correct terminology ;)






Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Local time: 03:24
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 26
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