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mitgeschnitten

English translation: recorded

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German term or phrase:mitgeschnitten
English translation:recorded
Entered by: Kim Metzger

01:12 Aug 27, 2009
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Media / Multimedia / art exhibition
German term or phrase: mitgeschnitten
aus Fernsehen mitgeschnittenes Material

I'd appreciate help with this term because I really don't know what's going on. The artists involved in the exhibition are Cory Arcangel, Jessica Ciocci, Jacob Ciocci, Shana Moulton and Ryan Trecartin.

Überschuss und Zerfall als Gesamtkunstwerk

Die Ausstellung "Deterioration, they said" vereint im Zürcher Migros-Museum für Gegenwartskunst vom 29.8. bis 811.2009 vier Projekte von US-Künstlern. Obwohl Vertreter einer jüngeren Generation, erinnern ihre Video-Arbeiten an die Bildsprache der 1980er und 90er Jahre – exzessiv bunt und überbordend wie unsere Kultur des Überschusses. Abseits des "guten Geschmacks" wird hemmungslos gemischt: aus Fernsehen mitgeschnittenes Material mit selbst gezeichneten Comics, psychedelischen Sequenzen und Konsumsymbolen.
Kim Metzger
Mexico
Local time: 10:51
recorded
Explanation:
Es geht doch schließlich nur darum, dass etwas aufgezeichnet wurde
Selected response from:

Alexander Weichelt
Local time: 18:51
Grading comment
Thanks Alexander and everyone else. I failed to connect 'mitgeschnitten' with 'Mitschnitt', which is already in the glossary.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3sampled
mill2
3recorded
Alexander Weichelt
3 -2TV outtakes/edited out material from TV
Anne Grimes
3 -2interwoven
Frank Pepp
Summary of reference entries provided
looking back in time :-)
Johanna Timm, PhD
recorded
Annett Kottek (X)

Discussion entries: 2





  

Answers


17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -2
TV outtakes/edited out material from TV


Explanation:
This is how I understand it. Material that's not used after the final editing.

Anne Grimes
Canada
Local time: 12:51
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, Anne. Looks promising.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Elsje Apostel: I think it may be used material as well
4 hrs
neutral  Annett Kottek (X): This refers to home-recorded material (with a video or DVD recorder) that was then edited by the artist, as a way of appropriating or referencing contemporary culture. It may or may not include outtakes.
5 hrs
disagree  Lonnie Legg: It refers to (artist-)recordings of aired material -- not outtakes. see Annett Kottek's reference.
6 hrs
disagree  Erik Freitag: Agree with Lonnie and Annett.
6 hrs
disagree  Ulrike Kraemer: with Lonnie and Annett
7 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -2
interwoven


Explanation:
I have seen such work done in Germany. They might be referring to the current process and not the original editing. Mitgenschnitten means "with" "cut" as in in "inter-edited" better phrased "interwoven".
"Material from Television is -interwoven- with self-drawn comics, psychedelic sequences and symbols of consumption."

The opening sequence of Lola Rennt, and movies like Requiem for a Dream, Magnolia and Donnie Darko are more mainstream (less "beyond" good tastes) examples in this same vein of art.
In the case you address, I assume the television is borrowed directly and not recreated and parodied.




Frank Pepp
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Lonnie Legg: It refers to (artist-)recordings of aired material -- regardless of how it is subsequently handled by the artist. see Annett Kottek's reference.
4 hrs
  -> I'm in agreement with Annet Kottek's answer now as well. Thanks.
disagree  Erik Freitag: Agree w/ Lonnie.
4 hrs
  -> Thanks
disagree  Ulrike Kraemer: with Lonnie
5 hrs
  -> Thanks
agree  philgoddard: I don't see what's wrong with this.
12 hrs
  -> Thanks. If language was more than use, we would be right. I think this term has been bastardized by the same people who think taking photos of hipster friends at a bar is art. I assume its genesis is a "high quality live cut"; akin to taking a good photo.
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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
sampled


Explanation:
Agree with the Annett's reference definition, another way to put it would be material sampled from TV

mill2
Local time: 18:51
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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1 day 19 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
recorded


Explanation:
Es geht doch schließlich nur darum, dass etwas aufgezeichnet wurde

Alexander Weichelt
Local time: 18:51
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thanks Alexander and everyone else. I failed to connect 'mitgeschnitten' with 'Mitschnitt', which is already in the glossary.
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Reference comments


1 hr peer agreement (net): +3
Reference: looking back in time :-)

Reference information:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/tech_engineering...

Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 17
Note to reference poster
Asker: That WAS a while ago.


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  ArnoTranslat (X): memories, memories...
46 mins
agree  Helen Shiner: either you or Annett should post this as an answer to get us out of this impasse!!
6 hrs
agree  Erik Freitag
6 hrs
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5 hrs peer agreement (net): +7
Reference: recorded

Reference information:
mitschneiden (bes. Rundf., Ferns.): (eine Sendung o.Ä. zum Zwecke beliebiger Reproduzierbarkeit) aufzeichnen, auf Magnetband aufnehmen: eine Sendung, ein Konzert m.
© Duden - Deutsches Universalwörterbuch, 6. Aufl. Mannheim 2006 [CD-ROM].

Obwohl das Magnetband jetzt wohl überholt ist. Wenn ich das richtig verstehe, wurde bei der damaligen redaktionellen Nachbearbeitung das Band buchstäblich geschnitten (meine Quelle hier ist Bölls satirische Kurzgeschichte Dr. Murkes gesammeltes Schweigen.)

YouTube könnte man als die Hochburg der Mitschneider bezeichnen:
‘Ich hab viele LIeder über Youtube mitgeschnitten und convertiert.Erkennt Itunes die Lieder/Alben oder, was wichtiger ist, spielt der ipod die lieder überhaupt ab?’
http://wow.ingame.de/forum/showthread.php?s=2b50fe1fa3c6df06...

‘Notruf-Mitschnitt in YouTube: Verfahren gegen Polizisten eingestellt’
http://www.wdwip.tv/forum/showthread.php?t=5936

Annett Kottek (X)
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Lonnie Legg: Yes!
55 mins
  -> Thank you for your agree and discussion entry. Actually, Johanna had already answered the question with her link to a previous glossary entry; I just wanted to elaborate on it.
agree  Erik Freitag: Certainly. You should post an answer, though.
1 hr
  -> Thank you, efreitag.
agree  Kay Barbara: with efreitag
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Kay.
agree  Ulrike Kraemer: mit Erik
2 hrs
  -> Thank you, LittleBalu.
agree  Deborah Shannon: with all of the above. In the context of meetings, lectures, teleconferences also: Mitschnitt = audiovisual recording, Mitschrift = transcript
2 hrs
  -> Thank you, Deborah.
agree  Helen Shiner: with you and Johanna's offering. Please one of you, post as an answer!
2 hrs
agree  Frank Pepp: I agree this is the best translation.
7 hrs
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