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Gedenkprägung

English translation: commemorative medal

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German term or phrase:Gedenkprägung
English translation:commemorative medal
Entered by: Andrea Garfield-Barkworth

08:56 Oct 4, 2011
German to English translations [PRO]
Marketing - Manufacturing
German term or phrase: Gedenkprägung
I'm looking for a word to signify a collectable metal object which has been stamped like a coin but has no monetary value whatsoever. There are thirteen metal objects altogether. One circular one and twelve fan-shaped ones to surround it.

I had initially thought of "commemorative coin" but the client informed it has no monetary value which is why it is not a "Münze" more a "Medaillen".

Would the word "medallion" fit into this context? Or what else do we call a "coin" which isn't a "coin"?
Andrea Garfield-Barkworth
Germany
Local time: 09:09
commemorative medal
Explanation:
My feeling is that this might be the term used by coin collectors in this context.

"Gedenkprägung" and "Medaille" are often referred to as virtual synonyms and, provided that you don't have to use both terms in one sentence, wouldn't "commemorative medal" do?

Definition einer Medaille
Eine Medaille oder auch Gedenkprägung wird geprägt, um ein Ereignis zu würdigen. Allerdings ist eine Medaille kein Zahlungsmittel und besitzt auch keinen Nennwert. Das ist der wichtige Unterschied zu einer Münze. Viele Medaillen sind mitunter aus Edelmetallen sehr aufwendig und in hoher Qualität geprägt, trotzdem bleiben sie natürlich Gedenkprägungen und kein Zahlungsmittel.
Silber-Medaillen (Gedenkprägungen)
http://www.silber.de/muenze_oder_medaille.html

Medal:
A medal, or more specifically a commemorative medal, is generally a round metallic object which is manufactured to commemorate some person, thing, or event of historical interest and importance. Unlike coins, a medal has no intrinsic monetary value; its worth is dependent upon its artistic quality, historical importance, age, rarity, condition, size, and metallic composition.
http://www.historicalartmedals.com/MEDAL WEB ENTRIES/BIOSKET...

In view of this definition:
Eine Gedenkprägung ist der Sammelbegriff für Gedenkmedaillen und Gedenkmünzen, schließt aber auch Reliefprägungen und Ehrenzeichen mit ein, die nicht in der üblichen Rundform hergestellt sind.
http://www.munzen.net/begriffe/gedenkpraegung-gedenkpraegung...
perhaps a term like "commemorative piece(s)" might work here, given that the "Gedenkprägung" is essentially a piece of metal struck with a design to commemorate something/someone.

E.g.:
If someone attempting to sell an item applies the term "coin" to a medal, the situation is quite different. A real coin can be spent, it serves as money. Medals are commemorative pieces that often look like coins, but have no cash value.
http://www.money.org/AM/PrinterTemplate.cfm?Section=Consumer...
and
Coins and Medals of Imperial Russia
Collection of Coins and Medals
Yale University
Medals and Commemorative Pieces
http://www.library.yale.edu/slavic/coins/html/medals_commemo...
Selected response from:

Alison MacG
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:09
Grading comment
This was a tough one but I have decided to go for this answer as "token" does have some kind of value in whatever form.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +2commemorative token
Phoebe Indetzki
3commemorative mint(age)
Nicole Schnell
3collector's commemorative coin
casper (X)
2 +1commemorative medal
Alison MacG


Discussion entries: 4





  

Answers


21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
commemorative mint(age)


Explanation:
Simply. This way you won't define those coins as a means of currency.

Nicole Schnell
United States
Local time: 00:09
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 32
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for your help.

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25 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
commemorative token


Explanation:
I actually prefer your 'commemorative coin', so this is only a suggestion if the client really continues to object to coin.

Token is used for fake coins to go in lockers or trolleys.

Phoebe Indetzki
Local time: 09:09
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for your help. I decided to go with commemorative medal as a token does have some kind of value even if it is not monetary.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jaime Hyland: I agree on your preferences as well!
1 min
  -> thank you :-)
agree  Ramey Rieger (X): nice solution Phoebe!
1 hr
  -> thank you!
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47 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
collector's commemorative coin


Explanation:
You've kind of answered your own question in your discussion box comment at 09:36 .

casper (X)
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 19
Notes to answerer
Asker: Yes, it does seem that way. It is just that the client has said he feels the word "coin" is "falsch". Of course, if I insist they will no doubt print it but I just need affirmation from my peers that I am correct and haven't overlooked any hidden meanings.

Asker: Thanks for your help.

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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +1
commemorative medal


Explanation:
My feeling is that this might be the term used by coin collectors in this context.

"Gedenkprägung" and "Medaille" are often referred to as virtual synonyms and, provided that you don't have to use both terms in one sentence, wouldn't "commemorative medal" do?

Definition einer Medaille
Eine Medaille oder auch Gedenkprägung wird geprägt, um ein Ereignis zu würdigen. Allerdings ist eine Medaille kein Zahlungsmittel und besitzt auch keinen Nennwert. Das ist der wichtige Unterschied zu einer Münze. Viele Medaillen sind mitunter aus Edelmetallen sehr aufwendig und in hoher Qualität geprägt, trotzdem bleiben sie natürlich Gedenkprägungen und kein Zahlungsmittel.
Silber-Medaillen (Gedenkprägungen)
http://www.silber.de/muenze_oder_medaille.html

Medal:
A medal, or more specifically a commemorative medal, is generally a round metallic object which is manufactured to commemorate some person, thing, or event of historical interest and importance. Unlike coins, a medal has no intrinsic monetary value; its worth is dependent upon its artistic quality, historical importance, age, rarity, condition, size, and metallic composition.
http://www.historicalartmedals.com/MEDAL WEB ENTRIES/BIOSKET...

In view of this definition:
Eine Gedenkprägung ist der Sammelbegriff für Gedenkmedaillen und Gedenkmünzen, schließt aber auch Reliefprägungen und Ehrenzeichen mit ein, die nicht in der üblichen Rundform hergestellt sind.
http://www.munzen.net/begriffe/gedenkpraegung-gedenkpraegung...
perhaps a term like "commemorative piece(s)" might work here, given that the "Gedenkprägung" is essentially a piece of metal struck with a design to commemorate something/someone.

E.g.:
If someone attempting to sell an item applies the term "coin" to a medal, the situation is quite different. A real coin can be spent, it serves as money. Medals are commemorative pieces that often look like coins, but have no cash value.
http://www.money.org/AM/PrinterTemplate.cfm?Section=Consumer...
and
Coins and Medals of Imperial Russia
Collection of Coins and Medals
Yale University
Medals and Commemorative Pieces
http://www.library.yale.edu/slavic/coins/html/medals_commemo...


Alison MacG
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:09
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 31
Grading comment
This was a tough one but I have decided to go for this answer as "token" does have some kind of value in whatever form.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for your help.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Johanna Timm, PhD
8 hrs
  -> Thanks, Johanna.
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