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Einsatzgewicht

English translation: base weight

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German term or phrase:Einsatzgewicht
English translation:base weight
Entered by: Gabriella Bertelmann

18:52 Apr 9, 2010
German to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Manufacturing
German term or phrase: Einsatzgewicht
The weight of a blank part before further processing (re-forming, machining, etc.)

Ernst: "weight of materials including manufacturing losses"
This is a good definition, but is there a more 'handy' term?
Stefan Belger
Local time: 12:53
sugg: the base (basic) weight
Explanation:
hope this is helpful
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Gabriella Bertelmann
Local time: 21:53
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Summary of answers provided
5initial weight
Holly Hart
4sugg: the base (basic) weight
Gabriella Bertelmann
4original weight
Virgil Tech Eng
4charge weight
Johannes Gleim
3gross weight
Elsje Apostel
3pre-processing weight
Rolf Keiser
3blank weight
Cilian O'Tuama


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sugg: the base (basic) weight


Explanation:
hope this is helpful

Gabriella Bertelmann
Local time: 21:53
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
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gross weight


Explanation:
Just an idea
(gross - package (in this case the processing) = net weight

Elsje Apostel
Belgium
Local time: 21:53
Native speaker of: Dutch
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you all for your input. I intended to rate all your anwers with 3 points, but then realized that this is technically not possible, so only the first anwer got the points. Sorry!

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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
initial weight


Explanation:
You could also use 'starting' weight.
See my link to leo.org.
'Einsatz' can also mean 'deployment', which is the same sense as 'initial'.
This is a common term in chemical manufacturing.

Example sentence(s):
  • Record the initial weight...
  • VV0 is the initial weight of the polymer, (xn)o is the initial degree of ...

    Reference: http://dict.leo.org/forum/viewUnsolvedquery.php?idThread=909...
    Reference: http://books.google.com/books?id=ecimZRLnGcEC&pg=PA263&lpg=P...
Holly Hart
United States
Local time: 14:53
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: The Leo thread is my own ;-)

Asker: Thank you all for your input. I intended to rate all your anwers with 3 points, but then realized that this is technically not possible, so only the first anwer got the points. Sorry!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Johannes Gleim: Die Frage im Leo-Forum stammt von Steff (die Anwort ist deshalb nicht beweiskräftig). Die 2. Ref. ist nur Englisch und hat keinen Bezug zur Frage.
11 hrs
neutral  Cilian O'Tuama: in a chemical context, would that not correspond to the German Einwaage?
16 hrs
neutral  Kim Metzger: I couldn't be 100% sure of this reference.
19 hrs
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pre-processing weight


Explanation:
my suggestion which should leave no doubt that the weight is that before any kind of processing of the material takes place

Rolf Keiser
Switzerland
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Asker: Thank you all for your input. I intended to rate all your anwers with 3 points, but then realized that this is technically not possible, so only the first anwer got the points. Sorry!

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blank weight


Explanation:
might classify as a "handy" term?

Cilian O'Tuama
Germany
Local time: 21:53
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original weight


Explanation:
It is the weight before processing.

Virgil Tech Eng
Mexico
Local time: 13:53
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Spanish
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charge weight


Explanation:
de Definition das die Zuschläge für Gratabfall und Abbrand beim Wärmen enthaltende Gewicht, das zur Erzeugung eines Schmiedestücks bereitgestellt werden muß
Quelle CIRP Wb Fertigungstechnik 1:Schmieden-Freiformschmieden und Gesenkschmieden

Terminus Einsatzgewicht
Zuverlässigkeit 2 (Mindestzuverlässigkeit)
Quelle CIRP Wb Fertigungstechnik 1:Schmieden-Freiformschmieden und Gesenkschmieden
Datum 24/09/2003
http://iate.europa.eu/iatediff/SearchByQuery.do?method=searc...

Einsatzgewicht (IndE) : Input/charge weight
(Schäfer, Wirtschaftswörterbuch Deutsch - Englisch)

charge weight [tech.] das Einsatzgewicht
http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType...

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Nur 2,5 kg Einsatzgewicht
2,5 kg charge weight only
http://www.wagner-sicherheit.de/pdf/diabolo.pdf
http://www.junie.de/cms/pdf/Diabolo_Info.pdf

841-11-14
Einsatz je Tonne Aushringen
Erforderliches Einsatzgewicht je 1000 kg fertiger Schmelze.
gross charge per tonne
The weight of charge necessary to yield I 000 kg of molten metal.
http://www.tavanir.org.ir/IEC/Base/841.pdf

Einsatzgut - charge, burden, feed material, charging stock, feedstock, educt
(Kucera, Dictionary of Exact Science and Technology)

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insert is used for other use of "Einsatz". The charge is that amount of material used for processing.

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Types of inserts:

Inserts are used in plastic parts, to allow the use of fasteners such as machine screws. The advantage of this is that since these inserts are made out of metal, they are robust. Further, machine threads also allow great many cycles of assembly and disassembly.
http://www.efunda.com/DesignStandards/plastic_design/insert....

In a system with a central control unit, the local roller shutter control insert does not function.
In einem System mit Zentralsteuerung funktioniert der lokale Rolladensteuerungs-Einsatz nicht.
:
Insert for placement in a tube and method for its manufacturing
Einlage für ein Rohr und Verfahren zu dessen Herstellung
http://www.linguee.de/search?direction=auto&query=insert

Each comes with a carbide insert, hold-down screw and Torx wrench.
http://www.sherline.com/2256pg.htm

insert
Einsatz {m}
Einlage {f}
Einsatzteil {n}
filmTV Insert {n}
http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/insert.html

insert [tech.] der Anschlussverteiler
insert der Beihefter
insert [print.] die Beilage - in einer Zeitung
insert [tech.] der Buchseneinsatz
insert [tech.] das Einbaustück
insert [tech.] das Einbettteil
insert die Einfügung
insert die Einlage
insert [tech.] das Einlegeteil
insert [tech.] das Einpressteil
insert [tech.] der Einsatz
insert [autom.] das Einsatzstück - Düsenhalterkombination
insert [tech.] das Formstück
insert [tech.] die Gewindebuchse
insert [tech.] der Gießtrichter
insert [textil.] der Hemdeneinsatz [Nähen]
http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType...

As you will see, none of a.m. terms refer to your "Einsatz" used in "Einsatzgewicht".

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Neither is appropriate to your application.

use die Anwendbarkeit
use [tech.] die Anwendung
use die Benutzung
use der Brauch
use der Drogenkonsum [Suchtmittel]
use der Einsatz
use [tech.] die Einsatzmöglichkeit
use der Gebrauch
use die Handhabung
use Konsum von Betäubungsmitteln
http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType...

It's the sense of "charge", indeed.

econ. lot 52Charge {f}
batch 49Charge {f}
:
charge [of furnace] 16Schicht {f}
charge 15Füllung {f}
:
charge 10Ansatz {m} [Ausgangsgemisch]
http://www.dict.cc/?s=charge

The most common method in spark-ignition two-strokes is to use the downward motion of the piston to pressurize fresh charge in the crankcase, which is then blown through the cylinder through ports in the cylinder walls.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_(engine)
(This sense of charge is similar to that looked for, but not yet identical (Even Wikipedia do not cover all aspects).


Johannes Gleim
Local time: 21:53
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 82
Notes to answerer
Asker: The Diabolo source looks like a mistranslation to me - why would a customer brochure state a "charge weight" according to your definition? "Einsatz" might be "use" or "insert" here. For the other sources: They all seem to relate to initial forming (casting and forging), while I was looking for the term that applies to the blank before re-forming like deep drawing, and machining.

Asker: Johannes, thank you for your extensive effort. However, I'm not sure what you are trying to say. My mentioning of "insert" and "use" was just a guess to illustrate that your Diabolo source is very likely a mistranslation. - As for the term "charge": In all your sources it is in the sense of "original materials used in a chemical recation" or in "original forming such as casting". This is not the sense in my application.

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