Entformungstemperatur

English translation: demo(u)lding temperature // ejection temperature

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German term or phrase:Entformungstemperatur
English translation:demo(u)lding temperature // ejection temperature
Entered by: David Williams

14:41 Oct 13, 2008
German to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Manufacturing / Assembly and production
German term or phrase: Entformungstemperatur
This is one of the variables during adhesive curing in an autoclave or press. It sounds to me like removal from a mould, but there is no mention of any moulds anywhere else in more this entire process specification (over 20 pages of detailed instructions) so I am rather puzzled. What else could it be, if anything?
David Williams
Germany
Local time: 00:31
demo(u)lding temperature // ejection temperature
Explanation:
Despite the different materials being treated here, this might still be a "demo(u)lding temperature" (the term is also used in plastics/composite manufacturing).

See examples at

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Material recycling of RIM-poly... ("Demolding temperature 180 - 190 [degrees] C")

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP0998859.html
"It is envisaged that in some, but not all, methods of carrying out the invention the mould can be cooled to below the glass transition temperature of the polymer. For example, with a semi-crystalline polymer, the processing temperature could be around 250 DEG C and the ***de-moulding temperature***, i.e. that to which the mould is cooled could be of the order of 120 DEG C, which is above the glass transition temperature of nylon which could be above the glass transition temperature of the polymer, for example Polyamide, which has a glass transition temperature below 70 DEG C. Alternatively, for an amorphous polymer, such as polycarbonate, the ***de-moulding temperature*** would have to be less than the glass transition temperature of the polymer."

Depending on the design of the process your specification relates to, "ejection" might be another equivalent to "Entformung", so that you might also consider "ejection temperature" if it fits better.

See (IMHO context-relevant) examples of use of "ejection temperature":

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Nylon 6,6 adhesion to natural ...
"A significant economic advantage in building tires with nylon 6,6 is the opportunity to cure more tires per day from a single mold by curing faster. The higher curing temperature of faster cures (e.g. 340 degrees F) cannot be tolerated by nylon 6 without significant loss in cord strength. The reason for this is the appreciably lower softening point of nylon 6 (320-381 degrees F) vs. nylon 6,6 (446-464 degrees F). At a tire cure ***ejection temperature*** of 340 degrees F, the strength loss of a nylon 6 cord (ref. 14) is about 10% even at a low cord moisture content of 1-2%. Strength losses become even greater (30%) at higher cord moisture levels (5-6%)."

http://www.astm.org/Standards/D5592.htm
"1.4 It should be noted that for some of the desired properties, no ASTM or ISO standards exist. These include pvT data, no-flow temperature, ***ejection temperature***, and fatigue in tension. In these instances, relying on available test methods is suggested."

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-10-13 15:54:00 GMT)
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As you certainly know, I am in no position to really answer your added question but "Entformung" can hardly mean anything else in the context of materials processing (IMHO). This is best clarified with the client, I think.
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Steffen Walter
Germany
Local time: 00:31
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Many thanks!
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demo(u)lding temperature // ejection temperature


Explanation:
Despite the different materials being treated here, this might still be a "demo(u)lding temperature" (the term is also used in plastics/composite manufacturing).

See examples at

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Material recycling of RIM-poly... ("Demolding temperature 180 - 190 [degrees] C")

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP0998859.html
"It is envisaged that in some, but not all, methods of carrying out the invention the mould can be cooled to below the glass transition temperature of the polymer. For example, with a semi-crystalline polymer, the processing temperature could be around 250 DEG C and the ***de-moulding temperature***, i.e. that to which the mould is cooled could be of the order of 120 DEG C, which is above the glass transition temperature of nylon which could be above the glass transition temperature of the polymer, for example Polyamide, which has a glass transition temperature below 70 DEG C. Alternatively, for an amorphous polymer, such as polycarbonate, the ***de-moulding temperature*** would have to be less than the glass transition temperature of the polymer."

Depending on the design of the process your specification relates to, "ejection" might be another equivalent to "Entformung", so that you might also consider "ejection temperature" if it fits better.

See (IMHO context-relevant) examples of use of "ejection temperature":

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Nylon 6,6 adhesion to natural ...
"A significant economic advantage in building tires with nylon 6,6 is the opportunity to cure more tires per day from a single mold by curing faster. The higher curing temperature of faster cures (e.g. 340 degrees F) cannot be tolerated by nylon 6 without significant loss in cord strength. The reason for this is the appreciably lower softening point of nylon 6 (320-381 degrees F) vs. nylon 6,6 (446-464 degrees F). At a tire cure ***ejection temperature*** of 340 degrees F, the strength loss of a nylon 6 cord (ref. 14) is about 10% even at a low cord moisture content of 1-2%. Strength losses become even greater (30%) at higher cord moisture levels (5-6%)."

http://www.astm.org/Standards/D5592.htm
"1.4 It should be noted that for some of the desired properties, no ASTM or ISO standards exist. These include pvT data, no-flow temperature, ***ejection temperature***, and fatigue in tension. In these instances, relying on available test methods is suggested."

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-10-13 15:54:00 GMT)
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As you certainly know, I am in no position to really answer your added question but "Entformung" can hardly mean anything else in the context of materials processing (IMHO). This is best clarified with the client, I think.

Steffen Walter
Germany
Local time: 00:31
Works in field
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PRO pts in category: 124
Grading comment
Many thanks!
Notes to answerer
Asker: My problem isn't with the material in question. I would normally have thought it must mean that, except that there is no mention of any moulds anywhere else in this entire document (over 20 pages of detailed instructions) so I am rather puzzled. If no moulds are used, how can a part be demoulded or ejected?

Asker: Ach so! Danke Ruth, jetzt ist das schon logischer.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jon Fedler: entformung
24 mins
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agree  Ken Cox: my spontaneous thought
4 hrs

agree  Ruth Wiedekind: Im Zusammenhang ist von einer Presse die Rede. Solche enthalten durchaus Formwerkzeuge.
4 hrs
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