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Brut bereits mehrfach gelungen

English translation: several successful breeding attempts

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German term or phrase:Brut bereits mehrfach gelungen
English translation:several successful breeding attempts
Entered by: Cetacea

14:38 May 2, 2006
German to English translations [PRO]
Science - Livestock / Animal Husbandry / Exotic Birds
German term or phrase: Brut bereits mehrfach gelungen
From a book on exotic birds, in information about nesting and reproduction. I believe the sense is that the birds have succeeded in nesting repeatedly. Here's specific quote: 2 Eier, Brutdauer 14-15 Tage. Brut bereits mehrfach (or vereinzelt) gelungen.
Please help with appropriate English rendering.
Thank you!
Eric Bye
Local time: 19:28
several successful breeding attempts
Explanation:
This is how both breeders and conservationists phrase it. Believe me, I've been active in both areas for over twenty years now...


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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-05-02 18:34:49 GMT)
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Just two references to demonstrate what I mean when I say that it is the type of publication that decides on the appropriate translation:

http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:1HDjXpYGwREJ:www.wfu.edu...|lang_fr|lang_de
http://www.sgisland.org/pages/environ/b_albatross.htm
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Cetacea
Switzerland
Local time: 01:28
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Summary of answers provided
3 +1hatching has been successful several times already
Kim Metzger
4they have already bred successfully
Teresa Reinhardt
5 -1several successful breeding attempts
Cetacea
3 -1multiple (or sporadic) successful hatching
Nicole Schnell


Discussion entries: 1





  

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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Brut bereits mehrfach gelungen.
hatching has been successful several times already


Explanation:
I think hatching works best for Brut in this case.


    Langenscheidts Fachwörterbuch Landwirtschaft, Forstwirtschaft, Gartenbau
Kim Metzger
Mexico
Local time: 17:28
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 126

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Teresa Reinhardt: how 'bout "they have hatched successfully" ? // was just a suggestion, more aimed at Asker; let's leave some work...
1 min
  -> My sentence is pretty awkward. I'd need to play around with it.
disagree  Cetacea: The birds can hatch, but still not make it to healthy juveniles. For a "Brut" to be considered successful, the young birds need to have left the nest in good health. / Beautiful choice. We're breeding parrots and parakeets.
26 mins
  -> I see your point. I used to raise chickens. My favorites were the Lakenvelders.
agree  Lancashireman: Google: Results 1 - 10 of about 138 from www.proz.com for "Believe me..." + "I am a...". See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_pleading
7 hrs
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Brut bereits mehrfach gelungen.
multiple (or sporadic) successful hatching


Explanation:
My take here.

Nicole Schnell
United States
Local time: 16:28
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 27

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Cetacea: The birds can hatch, but still not make it to healthy juveniles. For a "Brut" to be considered successful, the young birds need to have left the nest in good health. / No interpretation, just expertise.
14 mins
  -> Little context, lots of interpretation.
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Brut bereits mehrfach gelungen.
they have already bred successfully


Explanation:
or 'been bred' if the humans want to take credit

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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-05-02 17:32:11 GMT)
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Here are some links from native English sites to confirm that this is neither "low-brow" nor unusual:
www.funnyfarmexotics.com/PALM/chapter2.htm:
"Palm cockatoos have been housed and bred successfully in enclosures with..."

species.fws.gov/species_accounts/bio_cond.html: "The Andean condor, a closely related species that inhabits areas in South America, had bred successfully in captivity..."

www.birdcare.com/bin/shownews/205:
"The last time that bitterns are thought to have bred successfully at..."

Teresa Reinhardt
United States
Local time: 16:28
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Cetacea: Depends on the audience the book is aimed at. If it's not too "high-brow", your solution works just as well. / It's not breeding animals I'm refering to, but the style of the book in question.
30 mins
  -> There is nothing low-brow about breeding animals
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29 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Brut bereits mehrfach gelungen.
several successful breeding attempts


Explanation:
This is how both breeders and conservationists phrase it. Believe me, I've been active in both areas for over twenty years now...


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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-05-02 18:34:49 GMT)
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Just two references to demonstrate what I mean when I say that it is the type of publication that decides on the appropriate translation:

http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:1HDjXpYGwREJ:www.wfu.edu...|lang_fr|lang_de
http://www.sgisland.org/pages/environ/b_albatross.htm



    Reference: http://www.bto.org/research/advice/birdsconconcern/bccsectio...
Cetacea
Switzerland
Local time: 01:28
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 39

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Nicole Schnell: Sorry. Breeding attempt includes mating. No such thing mentioned in the question.//We are breeding canaries and know about the works.
19 mins
  -> And you think anything will hatch without mating? "The German term "Brut" includes the works. Check out the corresponding literature.
neutral  Teresa Reinhardt: Why "attempts"??? They have been bred successfully...said exactly the same // You might want to check my links under my answer to see what 'they' say
1 hr
  -> I know, Theresa, but that's how they phrase it. Don't blame me! ;-)
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