petites mains

English translation: petites mains

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French term or phrase:petites mains
English translation:petites mains
Entered by: Nina Khmielnitzky

15:28 Apr 6, 2020
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Art/Literary - Textiles / Clothing / Fashion / Seamstress
French term or phrase: petites mains
How do you call these seamstresses who work in Chanel and other fashion brands to create clothes and embellishments?
Nina Khmielnitzky
Canada
Local time: 16:40
petites mains (haute-couture seamstress)
Explanation:
I would leave it in French with an explanation in brackets.


"Les petites mains" (which literally means small hands) refers to the collective 2,200 seamstresses who painstakingly bring haute couture creations to life. Working in the ateliers, this talented, patient breed are often fiercely loyal to a fashion house, spending their whole career solely at one brand.
http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/news-features/TMG10147014/Hau...

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Note added at 27 mins (2020-04-06 15:56:00 GMT)
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In fact your context is not Paris fashion houses, but my answer still applies.
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philgoddard
United States
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4 +3petites mains (haute-couture seamstress)
philgoddard
3 +2dressmaker's apprentice
Marco Solinas
4seamstress
Philippa Smith


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petites mains (haute-couture seamstress)


Explanation:
I would leave it in French with an explanation in brackets.


"Les petites mains" (which literally means small hands) refers to the collective 2,200 seamstresses who painstakingly bring haute couture creations to life. Working in the ateliers, this talented, patient breed are often fiercely loyal to a fashion house, spending their whole career solely at one brand.
http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/news-features/TMG10147014/Hau...

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Note added at 27 mins (2020-04-06 15:56:00 GMT)
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In fact your context is not Paris fashion houses, but my answer still applies.

philgoddard
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agree  Barbara Carrara
18 mins

agree  Yvonne Gallagher
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agree  Nicolas Teste
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31 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
dressmaker's apprentice


Explanation:
or apprentice seamstress
See http://www.granddictionnaire.com/ficheOqlf.aspx?Id_Fiche=170... and https://books.google.ca/books?id=4vNBAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA317&lpg=P...

Marco Solinas
Local time: 13:40
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  ph-b (X): Petite main. Couturière apprentie. https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/main
55 mins

agree  writeaway: Ph-b's reference leaves no doubt. It's not just Canadian French.
7 hrs

neutral  Philippe Etienne: Une "petite main" n'est pas une apprentie dans le français que je connais (de France). Edit: Même si mon dico Larousse 1993 dit le contraire.
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28 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
seamstress


Explanation:
What I always use in couture translations. You could use "seamstress and dressmaker" for that line (seamstresses = more function role, dressmaker = more creative).

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Note added at 15 hrs (2020-04-07 06:49:19 GMT)
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* "functional role". And that's maybe doing a disservice to the skills of the "petites mains", as described, for instance, here:

'"Petites Mains directly translates to "small hands" in French, but actually refers to the most skilled seamstresses of the Parisian couture houses. The “Petites Mains” are masters in the most refined embroideries and beadworks of the sophisticated haute couture creations.
Their work has always fascinated us as they can spend hundreds of hours to embellish one gown. In their hands fashion history is made.'
https://petitesmains-cf.com/about-us

They are highly skilled people who, as Phil's reference says, may spend an entire career at just one couture atelier. And although Marco's and ph-b's references are good, I wouldn't call them "apprentices".

Of course the asker's subject wasn't working in haute couture but for an opera company. I think it makes it less likely that she was an apprentice but it's possible of course: the asker could check with her. It also means haute couture specialist definitions are possibly not relevant...

Philippa Smith
Local time: 22:40
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