images au trait

English translation: line drawings

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French term or phrase:	images au trait
English translation:	line drawings

16:48 Dec 18, 2017

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Tech/Engineering - Photography/Imaging (& Graphic Arts) / used in a medical context

French term or phrase: images au trait

This is a neuropsychological report for a patient who experienced undesirable effects from a pharmaceutical drug. The effects were neurological and psychological in nature. These are the results under the 'Language' category and I am unsure as to what this test entailed exactly:

La dénomination d'images au trait et la dénomination de couleurs sous contrainte temporelle sont dans les normes.

Any thoughts?

Many thanks

Alison

Alison Wedley KudoZ activity Questions: 98 (7 open) (1 without valid answers) (7 closed without grading) Answers: 16 France
Local time: 01:51

line drawings

Explanation:
https://www.meubliz.com/definition/dessin_au_trait/

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Un dessin au trait ne représente que les contours des objets. Il n'indique pas leur modelé ou relief à l'intérieur du contour par des effets d' ombre et de lumière.

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I'm not familiar with the test, but it sounds as if the patient was asked to name objects etc from line drawing images ie represented just by their contours.

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This paper describe the recognition of line drawings as a neurological test in a patient who had suffered a brain infarct
file:///C:/Users/user/Downloads/429762%20(1).pdf

Here, we report on a patient with visual agnosia for
line drawings and silhouettes following an ischaemic
stroke in the region of the right posterior cerebral artery......

The patient’s visual recognition ability was examined
using real objects, photographs, line drawings and
silhouette pictures. T

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http://www.wordreference.com/fren/trait

here trait is given as a line, in relation to drawing

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Sue Davis
France
Local time: 01:51

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Thank you Sue
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line drawings

Sue Davis

4 -1

bi-level or monochrome images

Drmanu49

Discussion entries: 9

Sue Davis

France

15:54 Dec 19, 2017

@Drmanu I'm afraid you are making a leap that is not justified by the information available. I think we need to translate the terms that are in the source text

Tony M

France

@ Manu

14:45 Dec 19, 2017

I really don't know what is giving you a problem here? The term asked is indeed clear and unamlbiguous (at least to anyone with the necessary technical knowledge in the field) -- and Sue has given a perfect explanation of the overall meaning. I think you are simply over-thinking this.

Drmanu49

France

12:32 Dec 19, 2017

Better ask the author what is meant in that case, but how would you translate the whole "unambiguous" sentence??? If the sentence was as clear as you claim it to be, we would not be having this discussion.

Tony M

France

@ Manu

12:28 Dec 19, 2017

Whatever you "feel", you can't argue with the meaning of the technical terms!
While line art MAY be monochrome (though it doesn't by any means HAVE to be!), 'monochrome' is by no means only line art.
Leaving asside what you feel you'd like it to mean, there's no escaping the meaning of the totally clear and unambiguous source term -- unless you think you know better than the writer and would seek to re-write the source text to be what you THINK it should have been?

Drmanu49

France

11:36 Dec 19, 2017

Sorry to disagree Tony but I feel that perception of colours or monochrome is the issue here.

Alison Wedley

France

ASKER

07:38 Dec 19, 2017

Thanks for all your responses / ideas. This is a difficult one to understand it has to be said. I can't really find any reference to this kind of test. There is a reference to line drawing identification on this page, with an example. http://www.cumc.columbia.edu/publications/in-vivo/Vol1_Iss6_...

Tony M

France

@ Manu

06:56 Dec 19, 2017

No, it is talking about 2 separate aspects of perception:
1) Identifying things from line drawings of them (i.e. simplified, perhaps stylized images)
2) Identifying colours correctly.

There is nothing to say these are talking about characteristics of THE SAME images

Drmanu49

France

19:46 Dec 18, 2017

As mentioned in my answer, the source text mentions specifically "dénomination de couleurs" which is why I think the issue is colour and monochrome image definitions being affected or not by the drug.

Sue Davis

France

19:40 Dec 18, 2017

@Drmanu - Apologies I couldn't see where you answer came from. However I think trait refers to a line, rather than a colour (see wordref ref).

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peer agreement (net): -1

bi-level or monochrome images

Explanation:
This seems to be opposed to colour images so I would go for this

Bi-level image
www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=Bi-level image&item...

Traduire cette page
Binary images are also called bi-level or two-level. This means that each pixel is stored as a single bit—i.e., a 0 or 1. The names black-and-white, B&W, monochrome or monochromatic are often used for this concept, but may also designate any images that have only one sample per pixel, such as grayscale images.

Drmanu49
France
Local time: 01:51
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English,

French

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peer agreement (net): +4

line drawings

Sue Davis
France
Local time: 01:51
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 4

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Thank you Sue

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