advenue

English translation: instantiation / the advent of

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French term or phrase:advenue
English translation:instantiation / the advent of
Entered by: Francis Marche

10:28 Nov 3, 2014
French to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Philosophy
French term or phrase: advenue
From a text about divine knowledge in medieval Muslim philosophy:

***L’advenue*** du savoir dans la partie connaissante n’est pas un changement de cette partie connaissante elle-même, pas plus – dit Averroès – que ***l’advenue*** du prédicat : « à droite » pour la colonne, supprimant le précédent : « à gauche », n’est un changement dans la colonne même, de la colonne même, quand c’est Socrate, en réalité, qui s’est déplacé.
tatyana000
Local time: 15:56
instantiation / the advent of (divine) knowlege
Explanation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instantiation_principle

"Within the framework of metaphysics, Avicenna introduces some original doctrines which, in virtue of their fundamental and all-encompassing character, are able to connect and unify the multiplicity of themes and sources of the Ilāhiyyāt. Most notorious among them is the distinction between essence and existence in created beings, which represents the real cornerstone of Avicenna's ontology. This distinction underlies many themes of Avicenna's metaphysics: it justifies, for instance, the difference between the primary concepts “thing” (i.e., “item having an essence”) and “existent” (i.e., “item having existence”) at the beginning of the work; it grounds the theory of universals (universality is an attribute that belongs to an essence not as such, but when this latter exists in the human mind, abstracted from the things in which it is *****instantiated*****); and it leads to the fundamental characterization of God as the only being that has no essence apart from existence, or that has an essence that is totally identical to existence."

"the emergence" could also work, from a layman standpoint


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http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/arabic-islamic-metaphysics...
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Francis Marche
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Thanks! I went for advent in the end. I'm not quite sure about "instatiation."
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3 +1instantiation / the advent of (divine) knowlege
Francis Marche
3embodied / inherent / intrinsic
DLyons
3acquisition, or rephrase
Melissa McMahon


  

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embodied / inherent / intrinsic


Explanation:
Def: Qui est entré dans le monde en s'unissant à un corps.

Ibn Rushd: "God’s knowledge is neither universal nor individual, although it is more like the latter than the former. Our knowledge is the result of what God has brought about, whereas God’s knowledge is produced by that which he himself has brought about, a reality which he has constructed. The organization of the universe is a reflection of God’s thought, and through thinking about his own being he is at the same time thinking about the organization of the world which mirrors that essence. He cannot really be identical with contingent and accidental phenomena, yet his essence is not totally unconnected with such phenomena. They represent contingent aspects of the necessary and essential relationships which he has established. To take an example, God knows which physical laws govern the universe, but he does not need to observe any moving objects to understand the principles of movement. Such observations are only appropriate objects of knowledge of sentient creatures with sensory apparatus and are far beneath the dignity of the creator."

DLyons
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Germaine: I doubt it. See III B. in http://atilf.atilf.fr/dendien/scripts/tlfiv5/visusel.exe?34;...
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instantiation / the advent of (divine) knowlege


Explanation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instantiation_principle

"Within the framework of metaphysics, Avicenna introduces some original doctrines which, in virtue of their fundamental and all-encompassing character, are able to connect and unify the multiplicity of themes and sources of the Ilāhiyyāt. Most notorious among them is the distinction between essence and existence in created beings, which represents the real cornerstone of Avicenna's ontology. This distinction underlies many themes of Avicenna's metaphysics: it justifies, for instance, the difference between the primary concepts “thing” (i.e., “item having an essence”) and “existent” (i.e., “item having existence”) at the beginning of the work; it grounds the theory of universals (universality is an attribute that belongs to an essence not as such, but when this latter exists in the human mind, abstracted from the things in which it is *****instantiated*****); and it leads to the fundamental characterization of God as the only being that has no essence apart from existence, or that has an essence that is totally identical to existence."

"the emergence" could also work, from a layman standpoint


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Note added at 5 hrs (2014-11-03 16:25:12 GMT)
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http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/arabic-islamic-metaphysics...


Francis Marche
France
Local time: 15:56
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench, Native in EnglishEnglish
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Grading comment
Thanks! I went for advent in the end. I'm not quite sure about "instatiation."

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard: Or acquisition.
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acquisition, or rephrase


Explanation:
With acknowledgement of philgoddard.

This refers back to the internal/external relations problem raised in your earlier question

The knower acquiring knowledge is not a change in the knower itself, no more - Averroes says - than the acquisition of the predicate [by the subject].

Melissa McMahon
Australia
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