ce qui se dérobe de ce en quoi il se donne
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Something which always shies away from that to which it is devoted Explanation: This is just one suggestion. Alternatively: 'Something which forever casts off that to which it is dedicated' It is a complex and interesting concept, though, and there are probably many other possible (and better!) solutions. |
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peer agreement (net): +1which hides itself from how it actually appears Explanation: Hello, There is perhaps a contradiction: ce en quoi il se donne = how it is represented ? http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/se_donner/2644... |
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that which conceals itself [prep.] how it reveals itself Explanation: I'm not familiar with Husserl or his philosophy, and this is quite a meaty text, but here's my shot at it. The use of "de" in se dérobe de puzzles me a bit. Could it be bad grammar (d'habitude, on se dérobe à qqn./qqch.), or is the author trying to say that the world conceals itself through how it reveals itself; i.e. its appearances hide its true nature? So, I'm unsure as to whether to say "conceals itself 'from' or 'through/by'", which of course changes the meaning considerably. Example sentence(s):
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Husserl's theory of intentionality Explanation: Evasiveness, evasion and the scope of Husserl's theory of intentionality. La question est, en d'autres termes, celle du statut d'une intentionnalité visant cela qui déborde toute apparition, se rapportant à ***ce qui se dérobe toujours de ce en quoi il se donne*** I have no problem with the « de » : ce qui se dérobe… de ce en quoi… ». In other words, the issue is that of the status of an intentionality aimed at that which exceeds [goes beyond] any apparition, in relation to that which always escapes from [that in which] how [the way in which] it is given. When you search this doc, with "intentionality" and "escape" a couple of phrases will get your mind into this dilemma! http://ist-socrates.berkeley.edu/~hdreyfus/188_s05/pdf/Carma... This may help too : http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/intentionality/ Intentionality is the power of minds to be about, to represent, or to stand for, things, properties and states of affairs. The puzzles of intentionality lie at the interface between the philosophy of mind and the philosophy of language. The word itself, which is of medieval Scholastic origin, was rehabilitated by the philosopher Franz Brentano towards the end of the nineteenth century. ‘Intentionality’ is a philosopher's word. It derives from the Latin word intentio, which in turn derives from the verb intendere, which means being directed towards some goal or thing. The entry falls into eleven sections: [...] -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 1 day1 hr (2013-06-27 11:21:23 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- You don't say how you are understanding "apparition" : appearance? apparition? The mind / body problem takes you onto another planet! |
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eludes the form it gives itself through Explanation: The idea is that the world (or any object) gives itself to the subject through appearances, but appearances are always appearances *of* something that doesn't itself appear. So we never actually grasp the real "object" in the phenomena that is also the only vehicle through which the object can be grasped - it "se dérobe de ce en quoi il se donne" - "eludes what it gives itself through". The issue is how to put it in English of course - I suggest explicitating the "what" as "form", which I think is a safe choice. |
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