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sur support papier ou dérivé

English translation: on paper or its derivatives

14:47 Jul 27, 2020
French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s)
French term or phrase: sur support papier ou dérivé
Online service agreement relating to a Web application.

"Le droit de reproduire ou de faire reproduire les Documents Digitalisés, sans limitation de nombre, en tout ou en partie, par tous moyens et procédés, sur tous supports et tous matériaux tant actuels que futurs, connus ou inconnus, et notamment sur support papier ou dérivé, plastique, numérique, magnétique, électronique ou informatique, par téléchargement, vidéogramme, CD-Rom, DVD, disque, disquette, réseau ;"

papier ou dérivé get a respectable number of hits if you google it, but "paper or derivative" doesn't.
Mpoma
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:36
English translation:on paper or its derivatives
Explanation:
Or "on paper or similar products".
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philgoddard
United States
Grading comment
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3 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +3on paper or its derivatives
philgoddard
3 +2on paper or paper-based medium
Marco Solinas
4on paper (medium) or (paper) by-product
Timothy Rake
3on paper or a medium derived therefrom
B D Finch
2on hard-copy paper or allied medium
Adrian MM.


Discussion entries: 1





  

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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
on paper (medium) or (paper) by-product


Explanation:
“Medium” is common translation of “support “

Timothy Rake
United States
Local time: 06:36
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 43

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  philgoddard: A by-product is something left over after the manufacturing process, which is not what they're referring to here..
19 mins
neutral  AllegroTrans: I tend to agree with Phil
21 hrs
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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
on paper or its derivatives


Explanation:
Or "on paper or similar products".

philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 317
Grading comment
Thanks

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AllegroTrans
12 mins
agree  Sandra & Kenneth Grossman
1 hr
agree  Eliza Hall
5 hrs
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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
on paper or paper-based medium


Explanation:
It can be expressed in a number of ways.

Marco Solinas
Local time: 06:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 24

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Yolanda Broad
6 hrs
agree  SafeTex
6 hrs
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
on hard-copy paper or allied medium


Explanation:
In descending order of confidence level again: 4-3-2.

Query: whether parchment is a derivative of paper or vice versa.




Example sentence(s):
  • Graph and download economic data for Producer Price Index by Commodity for Pulp, Paper, and Allied Products-

    Reference: http://eng.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/business-commerc...
    Reference: http://medium.com/@andrewdavidbhag/why-physical-hard-copies-...
Adrian MM.
Austria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 86

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  AllegroTrans: I see no need to add "hard-copy" since it's not in the ST or to change derivatives/derived from. If you reproduce something onto paper, surely it's hard-copy unless it's in invisible ink?
15 hrs
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20 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
on paper or a medium derived therefrom


Explanation:
As I read it, this is not meant to cover mediums made from paper, but mediums that a paper document might be converted into. That needs to be made clear, as otherwise it would just cover recycled-paper products, which would be irrelevant to the context.

However, it's best to avoid the term "converted" because that has another, technical, usage: https://www.brdisolutions.com/what-is-the-paper-converting-i...

B D Finch
France
Local time: 15:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 369

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  AllegroTrans: Isn't this basically the same answer as Phil's?
1 hr
  -> No. The other mediums wouldn't be derived from paper, but mediums to which a paper document had been transferred, e.g. a pdf, jpg, microfiche ....
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