نوكیش

12:28 Sep 14, 2010 

Dear Simon & Ebrahimi I really didn't aim to defend Simon. It was my opinion. Yup, however Mr Beikian is right we all know when a person convert into a new religion s/he called نوکیش. to my money your interpretation was not suitable for the word نوکیش.
anyway I do agree with you that your answer fits into context.

12:24 Sep 14, 2010 

Even now Mr. Beikian has an interesting entry so these two words can be related and Simon was not wrong.

12:22 Sep 14, 2010 

Dear Komeil,

Many thanks for your good intentions behind seeking to defend me, but I can assure you that I myself am the only person responsible for my mistakes here and, far from the reverse being the case, Mr Ebrahimi has been a positive help to me.

Best, Simon

12:20 Sep 14, 2010 

Please read this article, where the witer claims that the word "كشيش" has been derived from the originally Persian word "كيش".

Name of the Article: ريشه ايراني لغت كشيش
URL:http://www.aftab.ir/articles/art_culture/cultural_heritage/c...

12:17 Sep 14, 2010 

Dear Mr. Babgohari, yes but if you check the context, you see why I used Christianity. thanks for defending Simon but discussion entry is invented for this purpose and if he has got this wrong, it is because of his level of Farsi which is very good but mistakes are inevitable when you are not a Persian native. Also please enter one answer and not two when you reply to a question.

12:11 Sep 14, 2010 

Dear Ebrahimi نوکیش is a word that use in all religions. it is not special for Christianity. your definition made Mr Simon wrong in getting کیش related to کشیش.

11:58 Sep 14, 2010 

Dear Simon,

کیش is a Persian term and means آیین، دین and it has nothing to do with کشیش

11:53 Sep 14, 2010 

Many, many thanks for such a helpful and prompt response. This is most interesting as one of my greatest interests in life is the language of spirituality.

Perhaps the Iranian Church has at last found a Persian word for the way we follow. You've probably picked up on the fact that I, like many other followers of Jesus Christ, am unhappy with the word ‘religion’ as Jesus came to offer us relationship, not religion.

Of course, I have every respect for all religions, precisely because of the fact of this total difference: if our cars are different my car may be in competition with your car (and we may disagree about who has the better car), but (purely as an example) my thoughts won't be in competition with your car as a thought and a car are two completely different things.

But can I just check: is كیش a word of Persian origin? Is it connected with كشیش?

All the best, and many thanks again,

Simon