thread-lace

English translation: lace made of linen thread

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English term or phrase:thread-lace
Selected answer:lace made of linen thread
Entered by: Charles Davis

06:32 Nov 19, 2012
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Art/Literary - Textiles / Clothing / Fashion
English term or phrase: thread-lace
other women, if they liked, might have their best thread-lace in every wash.
Fatemeh B
Iran
Local time: 04:55
lace made of linen thread
Explanation:
This is from The Mill on the Floss by George Eliot.

"Other women, if they liked, might have their best thread-lace in every wash; but when Mrs. Glegg died, it would be found that she had better lace laid by in the right-hand drawer of her wardrobe in the Spotted Chamber than ever Mrs. Wooll of St. Ogg's had bought in her life, although Mrs. Wooll wore her lace before it was paid for."
http://www.victorianlondon.org/etexts/eliot/mill-0007.shtml

"thread lace
lace made of linen thread."
Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, published 1913
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Thread lace

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Here are some pictures of thread lace:
http://chestofbooks.com/food/household/Woman-Encyclopaedia-2...

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"Thread—Lace made from linen thread as distinguished from silk and cotton lace. Black thread is a misnomer for Chantilly."
The Best Known Varieties Of Laces (1924)
http://www.oldandsold.com/articles23/dressing-well-69.shtml

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I can't help wondering whether this use of "thread" to refer specifically to linen is somehow analogous with that of "hilo" in Spanish, or "fil" in French, which are words for "thread" in these languages but can also mean specifically linen:

"FIL
1. Domaine du tiss. et de l'habill.
a) Emploi abs. Fil. Fil de lin ou toile de lin. Parfois, un camarade laissait en passant quelque écheveau... ils abondaient dans les maisons : de laine, de fil ou d'étoupe (Pesquidoux, Livre raison,1932, p. 19):
1. La classe bourgeoise agit comme le pauvre, Ainsi le linge de fil manque. En Angleterre, où le coton a remplacé le fil chez les quatre cinquièmes de la population, on ne fabrique déjà plus que du papier de coton. Balzac, Illus. perdues,1843, p. 119."
http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/fil

"hilo.
(Del lat. filum).
1. m. Hebra larga y delgada de una materia textil, especialmente la que se usa para coser.
2. m. Ropa de lino o cáñamo, por contraposición a la de algodón, lana, seda o fibra sintética."
http://lema.rae.es/drae/?val=hilo
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Charles Davis
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5 +4lace made of linen thread
Charles Davis
4lace made from thread
B D Finch


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lace made from thread


Explanation:
Not just linen:

books.google.co.uk/books?id=hsuxgsCINjsC
Thomas Keith - 1826
"At Nottingham are several silk mills, an extensive manufacture of thread lace, and British lace, &c."

The other sort of lace is that made by removal of threads or cloth from a previously woven fabric. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lace

B D Finch
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Native speaker of: English
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lace made of linen thread


Explanation:
This is from The Mill on the Floss by George Eliot.

"Other women, if they liked, might have their best thread-lace in every wash; but when Mrs. Glegg died, it would be found that she had better lace laid by in the right-hand drawer of her wardrobe in the Spotted Chamber than ever Mrs. Wooll of St. Ogg's had bought in her life, although Mrs. Wooll wore her lace before it was paid for."
http://www.victorianlondon.org/etexts/eliot/mill-0007.shtml

"thread lace
lace made of linen thread."
Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, published 1913
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Thread lace

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Note added at 20 mins (2012-11-19 06:53:23 GMT)
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Here are some pictures of thread lace:
http://chestofbooks.com/food/household/Woman-Encyclopaedia-2...

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Note added at 5 hrs (2012-11-19 12:13:27 GMT)
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"Thread—Lace made from linen thread as distinguished from silk and cotton lace. Black thread is a misnomer for Chantilly."
The Best Known Varieties Of Laces (1924)
http://www.oldandsold.com/articles23/dressing-well-69.shtml

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Note added at 5 hrs (2012-11-19 12:20:17 GMT)
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I can't help wondering whether this use of "thread" to refer specifically to linen is somehow analogous with that of "hilo" in Spanish, or "fil" in French, which are words for "thread" in these languages but can also mean specifically linen:

"FIL
1. Domaine du tiss. et de l'habill.
a) Emploi abs. Fil. Fil de lin ou toile de lin. Parfois, un camarade laissait en passant quelque écheveau... ils abondaient dans les maisons : de laine, de fil ou d'étoupe (Pesquidoux, Livre raison,1932, p. 19):
1. La classe bourgeoise agit comme le pauvre, Ainsi le linge de fil manque. En Angleterre, où le coton a remplacé le fil chez les quatre cinquièmes de la population, on ne fabrique déjà plus que du papier de coton. Balzac, Illus. perdues,1843, p. 119."
http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/fil

"hilo.
(Del lat. filum).
1. m. Hebra larga y delgada de una materia textil, especialmente la que se usa para coser.
2. m. Ropa de lino o cáñamo, por contraposición a la de algodón, lana, seda o fibra sintética."
http://lema.rae.es/drae/?val=hilo

Charles Davis
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