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English translation: the origin

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English term or phrase:beginning
Selected answer:the origin
Entered by: Will Matter

16:11 Mar 18, 2008
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Textiles / Clothing / Fashion
English term or phrase: beginning
Is the word "beginning" ok in this contex? In the first case I would have better used "appearance" but it may be misunderstood in this context.

Any suggestions? Thank you!

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Jeans fashion from work clothes to modern trends. The article presents historical facts about ***beginning*** of jeans clothes. The main emphasis is on the ***beginning*** and development of jeans fashion.
Alexander Onishko
the origin
Explanation:
Substitute "the origin" in each case. HTH.
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Will Matter
United States
Local time: 21:45
Grading comment
many thanks to all!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



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4 +7the origin
Will Matter
3 +1the beginnings (post-closing suggestion)
Nesrin


  

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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +7
the origin


Explanation:
Substitute "the origin" in each case. HTH.

Will Matter
United States
Local time: 21:45
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
many thanks to all!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jack Doughty
11 mins
  -> Thank you.
agree  Ken Cox: and 'clothing' in the second instance\\and I'd seriously consider 'denim clothing' instead
14 mins
  -> Excellent suggestions, I agree.
agree  jerrie
16 mins
  -> Thank you.
agree  Expialidocio (X): And agree with Ken on replacing "jeans" (a noun) with "denim" (an adjective).
21 mins
  -> Merci and welcome to ProZ.
agree  Mihaela Ghiuzeli: Denim.
1 hr
  -> Multumesc.
agree  Alexandra Tussing
10 hrs
  -> Spasiba.
agree  V_Nedkov: w/Ken too
8 days
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
the beginnings (post-closing suggestion)


Explanation:
I know the question's closed now, but I'm thinking maybe "the beginnings of denim" would work here. It's different from "the origin of denim", so it really depends on what you want to say in your document.
In my opinion (as a non-native speaker), the "origin of denim" is about what denim came from, what it was before turning into the jeans clothes we know, while "the beginnings of denim" is about the early history of the use of denim in clothing.

There's an example here:

Ever since the beginnings of denim in the 1800’s till the late 1970’s, denim was universally made on machines known as shuttle looms.
forum.kitmeout.com/talk-fashion/1680-shuttle-loomed-denim.html

Nesrin
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:45
Native speaker of: Arabic
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Alexandra Tussing
7 hrs
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