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demoscopically

English translation: demoscopy vs demographics [not for grading]

07:34 Oct 14, 2005
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Social Sciences - Surveying / statistics
English term or phrase: demoscopically
My question is from an article about the world population.
Here is the sentense where the word is used.

"China and India will demoscopically grow."

If someone could help me, I would appreciate.
Thnaks.
tomokomukai
Local time: 06:01
Selected answer:demoscopy vs demographics [not for grading]
Explanation:
From the Oxford English Dictionary:
-scope: a formative element (from Greek skopia = observation (f. skopen to examine), used to form nouns denoting: (a) (formerly) divination by inspection of something (ooscopy, ornithoscopy); (b) scientific examination by means of some instrument (stethoscopy, telescopy); (c) medical examination of some part of the body (gastroscopy, peritoneoscopy).

demos: 1. One of the divisions of ancient Attica. 2. The people or commons of an ancient Greek state, esp. of a democratic state, such as Athens; hence, the populace, the common people: often personified.

demo- is the first element of the words democracy and demographics (but not of other demo- words such as demonstrate or demolish).

From the Encarta:
demographics (plural noun): characteristics and statistics of human population: the characteristics of a human population or part of it, especially its size, growth, density, distribution, and statistics regarding birth, marriage, disease, and death (takes a plural verb)

*demoscopy* is not yet in the dictionaries. It is a common word in Greek and means “public opinion research”. The Germans have adopted it as Demoskopie and it is the German word that has caused the formation of demoscopy, demoscopic, and, now, demoscopically.

However, population rises belong to demographics, not to demoscopy. Demoscopically is used incorrectly in the given sentence.
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Nick Lingris
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:01
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
3 +6the populations of these countries will continue to rise
Jonathan MacKerron
5 +4demoscopy vs demographics [not for grading]
Nick Lingris
4 +2based on survey research
stahat (X)


Discussion entries: 5





  

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21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +6
the populations of these countries will continue to rise


Explanation:
more or less

Jonathan MacKerron
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Ivana UK: demoscopy = public opinion/survey research
1 hr
agree  Nick Lingris: Demoscopically is wrongly used. The correct term is "demographic rise".
4 hrs
agree  Vicky Papaprodromou
5 hrs
agree  humbird: Also agree with Nick.
5 hrs
agree  Suzanne Blangsted (X)
14 hrs
agree  Alfa Trans (X)
2 days 1 hr
agree  Rajan Chopra
3 days 2 hrs
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +4
demoscopy vs demographics [not for grading]


Explanation:
From the Oxford English Dictionary:
-scope: a formative element (from Greek skopia = observation (f. skopen to examine), used to form nouns denoting: (a) (formerly) divination by inspection of something (ooscopy, ornithoscopy); (b) scientific examination by means of some instrument (stethoscopy, telescopy); (c) medical examination of some part of the body (gastroscopy, peritoneoscopy).

demos: 1. One of the divisions of ancient Attica. 2. The people or commons of an ancient Greek state, esp. of a democratic state, such as Athens; hence, the populace, the common people: often personified.

demo- is the first element of the words democracy and demographics (but not of other demo- words such as demonstrate or demolish).

From the Encarta:
demographics (plural noun): characteristics and statistics of human population: the characteristics of a human population or part of it, especially its size, growth, density, distribution, and statistics regarding birth, marriage, disease, and death (takes a plural verb)

*demoscopy* is not yet in the dictionaries. It is a common word in Greek and means “public opinion research”. The Germans have adopted it as Demoskopie and it is the German word that has caused the formation of demoscopy, demoscopic, and, now, demoscopically.

However, population rises belong to demographics, not to demoscopy. Demoscopically is used incorrectly in the given sentence.


Nick Lingris
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:01
Native speaker of: Native in GreekGreek
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Java Cafe: Nice, thorough explanation.
13 mins
  -> Thanks, J.C.
agree  MMUlr: This is a possible explanation: a confusion of demography - demoscopy.
18 hrs
  -> Exactly! Thanks!
agree  stahat (X): yes, this is the case..
21 hrs
  -> Thanks, Christina.
agree  neilmac: Great explanation, and very useful to me, 15 years later :-)
5502 days
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57 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
based on survey research


Explanation:
demoscopy=survey research (comming from the Greek word: äçìïóêüðçóç ("dimoskopisi").
So it would be:
"Based on (or according to) a survey research, the population of China and India will grow.

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Note added at 1 hr 41 mins (2005-10-14 09:15:56 GMT)
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Another option: Since "ÄÞìïò"="Dimos" is the municipality, how about:
"the municipal population of China and India will grow".

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Note added at 1 hr 53 mins (2005-10-14 09:28:44 GMT)
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Please see :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pireus

the correct word is "Demos", not "Dimos".

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Note added at 1 day 4 hrs 44 mins (2005-10-15 12:18:55 GMT)
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"demographic rise" is definetely a more suitable term to be used here. I wonder if the original text is a translated one...

stahat (X)
Local time: 16:01
Native speaker of: Native in GreekGreek, Native in GermanGerman

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  MMUlr: yes, more info on the issue: http://www.amstat.org/sections/srms/brochures/survwhat.html / IMO this synonym/explanation is OK, but is it used correctly in the sentence?
20 mins
agree  Ivana UK
1 hr
neutral  Nick Lingris: Sorry, Christina, but this has to do with public-opinion research. Nothing to do with demographics. It's an obviously wrong use of the word. Unless they based their findings on asking people how many kids they thought they were going to have.
4 hrs
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