owners of the two teams got into a fight
English translation: possibly physical but more likely a heated argument
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peer agreement (net): +3possibly physical but more likely a heated argument Explanation: Hard to say for sure. Is there any way you can fudge? I've been trawling through the records and there isn't that much said about this match other than that Ottawa arrived late and game was "dirty" and ended up tied 5-5. I think if the owners had got into a physical brawl it would have been highlighted in some of the reports as other matches are described as turning into "donnybrooks" (brawls). It seems the heated argument was over the rematch as the Montreal team wanted a rematch in Montreal but the Ottawa team refused to do this and that's why they dropped out of the league.... see here: "The Wanderers first Stanley Cup challenge was played against the Ottawa Hockey Club on March 2, 1904, resulting in a 5–5 tie game. The Wanderers would refuse to continue the series unless the tie was replayed in Montreal, and forfeited the series." and here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_Senators_(original) " ...In February 1904, during the CAHL season, Ottawa resigned from the league in a dispute over the replaying of a game. The team had arrived late for a game in Montreal and the game had been called at midnight, with a tied score. The league demanded that the game be replayed. The club agreed to play only if the game mattered in the standings. The impasse led to Ottawa leaving the league. For the rest of that winter, the club played only in Cup challenge series. Quebec went on to win the championship of the league and demanded the Stanley Cup, but the Cup's trustees ruled that Ottawa still retained it. The trustees offered to arrange a challenge between Ottawa and the CAHL champion, but the CAHL refused to consider it...." http://www.hockeyleaguehistory.com/Federal_Amateur_Hockey_Le... Mar. 2, 1904: at Montreal Ottawa 5 Montreal Wanderers (FAHL) 5. Following the tie game, a new two game series was ordered to be played in Ottawa. Wanderers refused unless the tie game was replayed in Montreal. No settlement could be reached. The series was abandoned and Ottawa retained the Stanley Cup. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1903–04_Ottawa_Hockey_Club_sea... Wanderers vs. Ottawa A two-game series between the Montreal Wanderers and Ottawa Hockey Club was arranged, for the Stanley Cup and the FAHL championship. The teams played the first game in Montreal to a tie of 5–5. Montreal refused to play overtime, demanding that the game be considered a no-contest and proposed that the series start over as a best two-of-three series. The Cup trustees demanded that the series continued as scheduled and the Wanderers abandoned the challenge. Date Score Losing Team Location March 2, 1904 Ended in a 5–5 tie Montreal Arena Ottawa wins series; Montreal is disqualified for refusing to play second game in Ottawa. According to the Gazette, the game saw "the dirtiest game ever seen between two senior teams at the Arena." Thirty-six penalties were called. Leahy was injured and replaced by Mallan. James Strachan, president of the Wanderers was quoted as saying that the Wanderers would not go to Ottawa and play with Dr. Kearns as referee.... Source: Montreal Gazette The Wanderers demanded a replay of the game to be held in Montreal, which Ottawa refused. The series was cancelled, with Ottawa claiming the FAHL championship..." http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2009/4/29/859123/history-4... "...Despite being such a new club, the Wanderers quickly became the biggest thorn in the side of the Senators. They mounted their first Cup challenge versus Ottawa in 1904. The first game, played in Montreal, was a 5-5 tie, which required a re-match... The Wanderers refused to continue unless the game was replayed in Montreal. They wound up forfeiting and losing their challenge. This was the source of bad blood that would continue for years..." the Senators certainly played dirty at the time: "...In a Stanley Cup challenge game in 1904, the Ottawas injured seven of the nine Winnipeg players, and the Winnipeg Free Press called it the "bloodiest game in Ottawa." The next team to challenge the Ottawas, the Toronto Marlboroughs, were similar treated. According to the Toronto Globe: " ...The style of hockey seems to be the only one known and people consider it quite proper and legitimate for a team to endeavor to incapacitate their opponents rather than to excel them in skill and speed ... slashing, tripping, the severest kind of cross-checking and a systematic method of hammering Marlboroughs on hand and wrists are the most effective points in Ottawa's style. According to one player, the "Marlboroughs got off very easily. When Winnipeg Rowing Club played here, most of their players were carried off on stretchers." This style of hockey would continue for years to come..." http://sens20.ottawasenators.com/early-years/stanley-cup-yea... http://sportsecyclopedia.com/nhl/ott/originalsens.html In 1904 the Silver Seven rolled through the Winnipeg Rowing Club, Sending every player from WRC off the ice via stretcher. The Silver Seven were intimidating as they also rolled through the Toronto Marlboros, Montreal Wanderers, and Brandon Wheat Kings in 1904 See more at: http://www.agreatgamebook.com/#timeline-1904 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Wanderers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_Senators_(original) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1904–05_Ottawa_Hockey_Club_sea... -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 2 days3 hrs (2017-04-30 11:30:33 GMT) Post-grading -------------------------------------------------- Glad to have helped! I actually saw Wayne Gretzky play in Montreal (for Oilers vs Canadiens) back in 1980 or '81 when he was a rising star. |
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