This site uses cookies. Some of these cookies are essential to the operation of the site, while others help to improve your experience by providing insights into how the site is being used. For more information, please see the ProZ.com privacy policy.
Cookie settings
  1. KudoZ™ Top
  2. English
  3. Folklore

ye daur

English translation: you dare

GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
English term or phrase:ye daur
Selected answer:you dare
Entered by: Michael Powers (PhD)

02:02 Mar 13, 2009
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Art/Literary - Folklore / Scottish song
English term or phrase: ye daur
This is from a traditional song about the battle of Prestonpans:

Cope sent a challenge from Dunbar
Sayin' 'Charlie, meet me, and ye daur
An' I'll learn ye the art o' war
If ye'll meet me in the mornin'.'
allp
Poland
Local time: 11:43
you dare
Explanation:
It sounds like a challenge, like "you dare" but I am basing this on the context of what is written and the sound of what is written.

Mike :)

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 13 mins (2009-03-13 02:15:46 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

In informal speech, sometimes there is elipsis of certain unstressed syllables and even an unstressed word such as "if." Its inclusion is implied even though not expressed. In informal speech most, if not all languages tend to reduce the part of the phase that is not emphasized.

Take the word "Bye" in English that comes from "goodbye" that comes from "God be with you."

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 9 hrs (2009-03-13 11:54:31 GMT) Post-grading
--------------------------------------------------

You're welcome, ALLP - Mike :)
Selected response from:

Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
Local time: 05:43
Grading comment
Thank you, Mike!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
3 +4you dare
Michael Powers (PhD)


Discussion entries: 2





  

Answers


2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
you dare


Explanation:
It sounds like a challenge, like "you dare" but I am basing this on the context of what is written and the sound of what is written.

Mike :)

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 13 mins (2009-03-13 02:15:46 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

In informal speech, sometimes there is elipsis of certain unstressed syllables and even an unstressed word such as "if." Its inclusion is implied even though not expressed. In informal speech most, if not all languages tend to reduce the part of the phase that is not emphasized.

Take the word "Bye" in English that comes from "goodbye" that comes from "God be with you."

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 9 hrs (2009-03-13 11:54:31 GMT) Post-grading
--------------------------------------------------

You're welcome, ALLP - Mike :)

Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
Local time: 05:43
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thank you, Mike!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you, Mike. It is my guess too, but then it should be rather "if you dare" instead of "and you dare", so I would like to be sure.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Soledad Caño: http://www.pteratunes.org.uk/Music/Music/Lyrics/JohnnyCope.h...
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Soledad - Mike :)
agree  Gary D: http://www.bryantmcgill.com/World_Poetry/~R/Robert_Burns/Rob...
3 hrs
  -> Thank you, Gary - Mike :)
agree  Dylan Edwards: I wonder if it should really be "an" meaning "if" - but then, even "and", according to Chambers, had the meaning "if" ("often in Shakespeare, now archaic").
4 hrs
  -> Thank you, Dylan. You have interesting observations with respect to Chambers and Shakespeare - Mike :)
agree  Jack Doughty: Yes, as in such archaisms as "An it please Your Majesty", where "an" is used in the meaning of "if".
8 hrs
  -> Thank you, Jack. Your example "An it please Your Majesty" is a very nice example. - Mike :)
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)



Login or register (free and only takes a few minutes) to participate in this question.

You will also have access to many other tools and opportunities designed for those who have language-related jobs (or are passionate about them). Participation is free and the site has a strict confidentiality policy.

Return to KudoZ list

KudoZ™ translation help

The KudoZ network provides a framework for translators and others to assist each other with translations or explanations of terms and short phrases.

See also:
ProZ.com term search
Search millions of term translations
Close search
Term search
  • All of ProZ.com
  • Term search
  • Jobs
  • Forums
  • Multiple search