desmetithyleny-methyl (MDMA M)

English translation: desmethylenyl-methyl (MDMA-M)

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English term or phrase:desmetithyleny-methyl (MDMA M)
Selected answer:desmethylenyl-methyl (MDMA-M)

08:03 Aug 28, 2009
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English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Medical - Chemistry; Chem Sci/Eng / post-mortem examination
English term or phrase: desmetithyleny-methyl (MDMA M)
We have come across this term in post-mortem examination translated from Serbian into English. As we have been informed by our translator, this term may be incorrect. We have tried to find some information on this subject in Internet, but we could not find anything. We would be grateful if you could let us now should anyone had already similar problem or is able to establish what is the correct spelling of this term.
Pearl Linguistics Ltd. (X)
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:15
desmethylenyl-methyl (MDMA-M)
Explanation:
only one 'L' missing:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org....
please see:
Drug Screening from Urine by GC/MS
- 1:52am
MDMA. 193,. 13519. 581,. MDMA-M (desmethylenyl-methyl-) ... 2080 MDE-M (desmethylenyl-methyl) 2AC 293,. 2. 1. 15 MDMA-M (desmethylenyl-methyl) 2AC 279, ...
doi.wiley.com/10.1002/9783527614042.ch8

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http://www.chemograph.de/en/list2009.html
Paroxetine-M (desmethylenyl-methyl) 2AC
Paroxetine-M (desmethylenyl-methyl) AC

http://www.chemograph.de/dd2009list/dd2009-4066-386541.html



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Please see:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org....
Drug Screening from Urine by GC/MS
and search for the following on that page:
2140 MDMAAC. 235,. 1575 Methamphetamine AC. 191,. 15 10 Phentermine AC. 191,. 2485 Prolintane-M (0x0-di-hydroxy-) 2AC. 347,. 1570 Propylhexedrine AC ...
doi.wiley.com/10.1002/9783527614042.ch8 -
There is a reference for MDAAC there.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2009-08-28 12:43:18 GMT)
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Sorry, typo, it should be: 'There is a reference for MDMAAC there.'
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Mira Stepanovic
Serbia
Local time: 07:15
Grading comment
Thank you very much Mira! It's really helpful!
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
4 +7desmethylenyl-methyl (MDMA-M)
Mira Stepanovic
3ecstasy
Dinap
2 +13,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine
Milan Djukić


Discussion entries: 8





  

Answers


37 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
ecstasy


Explanation:
I think this is it. A kind of an illegal drug, very popular in the last few years. I think this M is an extra one.

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In Serbian it is ekstazi, below we have a link with correct chemical name.
MDMA (3,4 metilendioksi-metamfetamin)
http://www.stetoskop.info/Ekstazi-MDMA-1687-s3-content.htm

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since you have a post-mortem examination, ecstasy could be a cause of death.

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I think this is some kind of typo and you should use (3,4 metilendioksi-metamfetamin)



    Reference: http://www.realx3mforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=766.0
Dinap
Croatia
Local time: 07:15
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in CroatianCroatian
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54 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +1
desmetithyleny-methyl (mdma m)
3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine


Explanation:
MDMA (3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine) is a synthetic, psychoactive drug chemically similar to the stimulant methamphetamine and the hallucinogen mescaline. MDMA is an illegal drug that acts as both a stimulant and psychedelic, producing an energizing effect, as well as distortions in time and perception and enhanced enjoyment from tactile experiences.

MDMA (3-4 methylenedioxymethamphetamine) is a synthetic
psychoactive drug chemically similar to the stimulant methamphetamine
and the hallucinogen mescaline. Street names for MDMA include Ecstasy, Adam, XTC, hug, beans, and love drug.

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Pod pojmom ekstazi svrstano je više različitih hemijskih supstanci identičnog delovanja: amfedoksamin ili MDA (3,4-metilendioksifenilizopropilamin), zatim MMDA (3-metoksi-4,5-metilendioksi-fenil-izopropilamin), MDMA (3,4-metilen dioksimetamfetamin).

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What is M in MDMA M? Possible answer: treated, used, abused.
Reference:
The aim of this study was to investigate the influence of ecstasy (MDMA) administration on body temperature and soleus muscle histology in exercised and non-exercised mice.
Charles-River mice were distributed into four groups: Control (C), exercise (EX), MDMA treated (M), and M + EX.
...were more pronounced in M group and even aggravated in M + EX group.



    Reference: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/concern/mdma.html
    Reference: http://www.youngwarriors.net/static/pdf/resources/drug_facts...
Milan Djukić
Serbia
Local time: 07:15
Native speaker of: Serbian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ljiljana Lukan
6 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +7
desmetithyleny-methyl (mdma m)
desmethylenyl-methyl (MDMA-M)


Explanation:
only one 'L' missing:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org....
please see:
Drug Screening from Urine by GC/MS
- 1:52am
MDMA. 193,. 13519. 581,. MDMA-M (desmethylenyl-methyl-) ... 2080 MDE-M (desmethylenyl-methyl) 2AC 293,. 2. 1. 15 MDMA-M (desmethylenyl-methyl) 2AC 279, ...
doi.wiley.com/10.1002/9783527614042.ch8

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http://www.chemograph.de/en/list2009.html
Paroxetine-M (desmethylenyl-methyl) 2AC
Paroxetine-M (desmethylenyl-methyl) AC

http://www.chemograph.de/dd2009list/dd2009-4066-386541.html



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Please see:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org....
Drug Screening from Urine by GC/MS
and search for the following on that page:
2140 MDMAAC. 235,. 1575 Methamphetamine AC. 191,. 15 10 Phentermine AC. 191,. 2485 Prolintane-M (0x0-di-hydroxy-) 2AC. 347,. 1570 Propylhexedrine AC ...
doi.wiley.com/10.1002/9783527614042.ch8 -
There is a reference for MDAAC there.

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Sorry, typo, it should be: 'There is a reference for MDMAAC there.'

Mira Stepanovic
Serbia
Local time: 07:15
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in Serbo-CroatSerbo-Croat
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thank you very much Mira! It's really helpful!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jack Doughty
48 mins
  -> Thank you!

agree  Veronica Prpic Uhing: derivative of, and MDMAAC is abr for acetate form
1 hr
  -> Thank you!

agree  zoe1
2 hrs
  -> Hvala!

agree  MMUlr: Also MDMA-Met. can be found for this compound: complete name: 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine-desmethylenyl-methyl (is this correct?)
4 hrs
  -> Thank you; I am not sure about MDMA-Met though, sorry, I'd have to check it out to be sure.

agree  Andy Carr: A very popular recreational pharmaceutical inthe seventies, now best known as the primary constituent in ecstacy though that's not often the case these days, brick dust and weedkiller seem to be popular, along with horse tranquilisers.
6 hrs
  -> Thanks :)

agree  Milan Djukić
9 hrs
  -> Hvala!

agree  Depy: I agree, MDMAAC and MDMA-M are basically 2 forms of MDMA in the deceased person's urine sample, the acidic and the "de-methylated" form. "Desmethyl" means that a methyl group has been removed from the MDMA: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/desmethyl .
1 day 2 hrs
  -> Thanks for the agree and for the additional explanation!
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