Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexencarboxyldehyd

English translation: Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde

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English term or phrase:Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexencarboxyldehyd
Selected answer:Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde
Entered by: ysun

17:03 Sep 6, 2006
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Science - Chemistry; Chem Sci/Eng / Cosmetics
English term or phrase: Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexencarboxyldehyd
Can anybody give me the proper spelling of this term? I think it should at least end in "...dehyde". It appears in a list of ingredients of a cosmetic product. The ingredients are given in English, but the packaging is produced in Germany. Now German chemical terms tend to be really long like this, but it seems doubtful to me in English. Also, I do not get a single hit on Google in any language.
Annette Scheulen
Germany
Local time: 23:13
Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde
Explanation:
Correct spelling should be Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde.

See: Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenec...

Carboxaldehyde refers to a chemical radical: -CH=O, i.e., a substituted formaldehyde.

Also see cyclohexane carboxaldehyde at: http://leonlab.bio.uci.edu/odorant.cfm?id=190


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Please put in some hyphens and search Hydroxy-methyl-pentyl-cyclohexen-carboxyldehyd on Google, and then enjoy the magic!

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Note added at 14 hrs (2006-09-07 07:53:56 GMT)
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"Carboxyldehyde" is definitely a typo. This compound has nothing to do with "carboxyl", which has the formula of -C(=O)-OH while carboxaldehyde has the formula of -CH=O. Please see definition of "carboxyl" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboxyl

Also, please see the structure of one of the isomers of hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde at http://www.iff.com/Ingredients.nsf/0/67B1B80D780230918025699...

By other means, if you search "carboxyldehyde" on Google, you will not get a single hit, but if you search "carboxaldehyde" on Google, you will get about 170,000 hits. If you search "hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde", you will get about 160 hits.


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Please also see this link: http://www.hermal.de/her_en/pages/trolab/trolab_database.php...


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Basically, hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde is an Aldehyde. It can be regarded as a derivative of cyclohexene carboxaldehyde. Cyclohexene has a 6-carbon atom ring and a double bond. There is no position 10 in its ring (6 is the maximum).

Here are the CAS registered names of this compound (CAS No. 31906-04-4):
4-(4-Hydroxy-4-methyl pentyl)-3-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde
Synonyms: 3 and 4-(4-Hydroxy-4-methylpentyl)-3-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde; 4-(4-Hydroxy-4-methyl pentyl)-3-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde; 4-(4-Hydroxy-4-methylpentyl)-3-cyclohexenecarbaldehyde;
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ysun
United States
Local time: 17:13
Grading comment
Thank you very much for the brainstorming; you have all been very helpful.
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
5 +2carboxyaldehyde/carboxaldehyde
Jörgen Slet
2 +44-(4-hydroxy-4-methyl pentyl)-3-cyclohexene-10-carboxyldehyde
David Sirett
5 +1Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde
ysun


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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +4
hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexencarboxyldehyd
4-(4-hydroxy-4-methyl pentyl)-3-cyclohexene-10-carboxyldehyde


Explanation:
This is given in a paper by German authors in Journal of Biological Chemistry, with the common name lyral. Absolutely no guarantee it is the same stuff, as those numbers really make a difference! So, low confidence.

Ref (in case the one below is truncated): http://www.jbc.org/cgi/reprint/273/27/16669.pdf#search="Hydr...


    Reference: http://www.jbc.org/cgi/reprint/273/27/16669.pdf#search=%22Hy...
David Sirett
Local time: 23:13
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 23

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Marie-Hélène Hayles: yes - I was just about to post along the same lines, having found similar links by googling. It seems the most likely possibility although the asker woud be advised to contact the client.
11 mins

agree  Will Matter: Looks very possible but would agree with MHH that it might be best to contact the client.
17 mins

agree  Nesrin: Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde in English (carboxal instead of carboxyl) - brings up 130 Google hits.
34 mins

agree  Charlesp
9 hrs

agree  Veronica Prpic Uhing
10 hrs

disagree  ysun: Sorry, but I don't think "carboxyldehyde" is a correct term.//Let me tell you cyclohexene doesn't even have a position 10. An error is an error no matter...
14 hrs
  -> If Journal of Biological Chemistry accepts it... //Indeed it is
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexencarboxyldehyd
carboxyaldehyde/carboxaldehyde


Explanation:
I don't think a "carboxyldehyd" group exists :) Most likely a typo.

The rest of the name is OK.

4-(4-hydroxy-4-methylpentyl)-3-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde

Hydroxyisohexyl-3-cyclohexene carboxaldehyde

HMPCC

CAS no: 31906-04-4

Apparently commercial quality material often contains 2 isomers, that's why the group positions are left unnumbered in your example.

I believe you can write it as a single word os split groups into separate words in English, I've seen both but I'm not familiar with the official conventions.

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Looks like I am mostly repeating information given by David and Nesrin. The unique information I can give is that I don't think you need to contact the client :)


    Reference: http://www.ifraorg.org/Enclosures/News/AnalyticalProcedureFr...
    Reference: http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:www.ifraorg.org/Enclosur...
Jörgen Slet
Estonia
Local time: 00:13
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EstonianEstonian
PRO pts in category: 36

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  ysun
1 hr
  -> thank you

agree  Veronica Prpic Uhing
8 hrs
  -> thank you
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexencarboxyldehyd
Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde


Explanation:
Correct spelling should be Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde.

See: Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenec...

Carboxaldehyde refers to a chemical radical: -CH=O, i.e., a substituted formaldehyde.

Also see cyclohexane carboxaldehyde at: http://leonlab.bio.uci.edu/odorant.cfm?id=190


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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-09-06 20:01:30 GMT)
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Please put in some hyphens and search Hydroxy-methyl-pentyl-cyclohexen-carboxyldehyd on Google, and then enjoy the magic!

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Note added at 14 hrs (2006-09-07 07:53:56 GMT)
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"Carboxyldehyde" is definitely a typo. This compound has nothing to do with "carboxyl", which has the formula of -C(=O)-OH while carboxaldehyde has the formula of -CH=O. Please see definition of "carboxyl" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboxyl

Also, please see the structure of one of the isomers of hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde at http://www.iff.com/Ingredients.nsf/0/67B1B80D780230918025699...

By other means, if you search "carboxyldehyde" on Google, you will not get a single hit, but if you search "carboxaldehyde" on Google, you will get about 170,000 hits. If you search "hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde", you will get about 160 hits.


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Note added at 15 hrs (2006-09-07 08:16:11 GMT)
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Please also see this link: http://www.hermal.de/her_en/pages/trolab/trolab_database.php...


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Note added at 23 hrs (2006-09-07 16:25:30 GMT)
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Basically, hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde is an Aldehyde. It can be regarded as a derivative of cyclohexene carboxaldehyde. Cyclohexene has a 6-carbon atom ring and a double bond. There is no position 10 in its ring (6 is the maximum).

Here are the CAS registered names of this compound (CAS No. 31906-04-4):
4-(4-Hydroxy-4-methyl pentyl)-3-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde
Synonyms: 3 and 4-(4-Hydroxy-4-methylpentyl)-3-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde; 4-(4-Hydroxy-4-methyl pentyl)-3-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde; 4-(4-Hydroxy-4-methylpentyl)-3-cyclohexenecarbaldehyde;


ysun
United States
Local time: 17:13
Native speaker of: Chinese
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Thank you very much for the brainstorming; you have all been very helpful.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Charlesp
6 hrs
  -> Thanks, Charles!
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