Die Land Length

08:17 Jun 30, 2016 

John @ 8:45pm, thanks for expressing what I couldn't be bothered to.

"cámara de relajación" sounds like it would fit in with the ability to change the density of the pellets, but I appreciate what you're saying Taña - you don't like to suggest unless you're near certain or armed with good refs. Either way, you've provided a lot of good info and food for thought - but it's a tricky one!

19:48 Jun 29, 2016 

Thank you. However, as said before, even with the additional context provided by Jorgelina (third entry from bottom), I am not convinced that "longitud de la cámara de salida" makes sense, nor do I think that "troquel" has any place in this context. I merely found a reference to "die land" here: http://tecnologiadelosplasticos.blogspot.com/2011/03/extrusi... which in itself is confusing as it gives two terms: " La primera de estas secciones es conocida como: cámara de relajación; mientras que la segunda puede ser llamada cámara de salida (die land). La cámara de relajación de la boquilla tiene como propósito producir la desaceleración del material e incrementar el tiempo de residencia en la boquilla de manera tal que el polímero relaje los esfuerzos impartidos por el paso a través de los paquetes de filtros y el plato rompedor. La cámara de descarga (Die land) produce el formado del perfil deseado con las dimensiones requeridas. Further 1) this deals with plastics, if I am not mistaken 2) the term "troquel" is not mentioned anywhere. I hope you will see why I am hesitant to put in anything as a proposal, as it would certainly not benefit the Asker.

18:48 Jun 29, 2016 

o algo así, según el contexto adicional, podría funcionar también..., o del "diámetro del troquel". Pero como digo, creo que Taña debería dar la respuesta, pues creo que es quien se lo ha trabajado a fondo. Saludos. :-)

18:45 Jun 29, 2016 

seems the best answer. (I agree with Neil). I have no clue about the subject myself, but even then, if you kindly offer that as an answer, I will vote for it hands down. That is, even not knowing about the subject, the option clarifies what it is, thus bringing about understanding. And "understanding" at the end of the day is what really counts in this game of translating and communicating. Looking forward for your posting! :-)

13:51 Jun 29, 2016 

Thanks for all these helpul options. I managed to get more context to decide which option would be the best in this case.

During the process of developing either pet or fish food, one of the final interactions of your product occurs at the cutterhead.
Dies are used to create the various shapes and sizes of products.
The design of the die has a great impact on the end product outcome.
One major factor of design that can affect the quality of your end product is the land length of the die.
This single dimension can control whether you produce a floating or sinking fish feed or a very airy or dense pet food pellet.
The land length of the die is the dimension of the straight section within a die.
For denser pellets, this dimension is longer and for lighter pellets, this dimension is shorter.

So... what do you think?

12:26 Jun 29, 2016 

Thanks Neil. I understand and you are too kind! LOL! I believe I have exhausted my options and again without further context, I will leave it alone now for others (who are more knowledgeable than I) to venture an answer. I would only be guessing if I were to propose "cámara de salida" or "descarga" as the case may be and I know nothing about making pellets and fish food! I believe it would be a totally reckless approach on my part! Regards, and again thank you.

12:19 Jun 29, 2016 

I'm a little busy to delve further.....You're very charitable/a better person than me!

12:03 Jun 29, 2016 

Thank you. However, I believe this field is more your area than mine. As so little context was posted to begin with, I tried to work firstly with what I had, and those references I posted are what I found, but my issue was that the "die-Land" which incidentally sounds weird to me (German perhaps?), I needed to find out what it was and what part it played in the extrusion process (especially pellets and fish food). Neil, I was not convinced with the first reference "hilera, tierra", so I found the other, but again it is in the context of plastics, and my concern here is whether the term would apply with so VERY LITTLE context originally provided! Neil, I would welcome any further comments. Regards.

10:40 Jun 29, 2016 

la "cámara de salida" would make an excellent glossary entry.... and is obviously 'more correct' than other offerings. What say you? And how's tricks?

00:33 Jun 29, 2016 

Otra:
http://tecnologiadelosplasticos.blogspot.com/2011/03/extrusi...
La primera de estas secciones es conocida como: cámara de relajación; mientras que la segunda puede ser llamada ***cámara de salida (die land).***
La ***cámara de descarga (Die land)*** produce el formado del perfil deseado con las dimensiones requeridas. Los parámetros básicos para la especificación de una boquilla son:
El diámetro y la abertura de la salida, Adaptadores: Son requeridos cuando la boquilla no es diseñada específicamente para un determinado extrusor.
Hay fotos también. So .... "cámara de salida/descarga" (die land). Yo dejaría la palabra "die land" entre [..].
Saludos.

00:20 Jun 29, 2016 

According to this "troquel" is something different
http://www.cep-plasticos.com/es/diccionario/T
Troquel - Punch: Stamping die - Poinçon - Stanzform; Lochstanze
Pieza de acero dulce en la que se han grabado inscripciones o figuras, que se utiliza para la estampación de piezas. Ver punzón.

00:20 Jun 29, 2016 

I really don't know, but based on this glossary which deals with extrusion processes, the "die land" is explained more (in several languages):
http://cep-plasticos.com/es/diccionario/all (Die land)
Diccionario del plástico
El Diccionario del Plástico es una obra de consulta de libre acceso en donde encontrará definiciones y contenidos sobre toda clase de conceptos relacionados con el mundo de los materiales plásticos.

Die land:
***Hilera, tierra (zona paralela) de los labios de la-Land (of an extruder die)***;
French: die land-Paralléle (d'une filiére d'extrusion); partie droite-Bügellänge;
German: Bügelstrecke; Bügelzone; Düsenparallelführung
Parte final de los labios de la hilera, paralela al flujo del material. Zona paralela del núcleo y el manguito justo antes de la salida del cabezal de la hilera, en la dirección del flujo fundido. Es fundamental para la forma del extruido y el control de sus dimensiones.

23:51 Jun 28, 2016 

But what is you suggested translation?
My attempt is "diámetro del troquel"

22:55 Jun 28, 2016 

http://www.kostic.niu.edu/extrusion_die_design-echp-1.pdf
Die land: forms the outer diameter of the tubular
extrudate, held in place with a retaining ring and
position adjusted with centering bolts. The die land
can be changed to create a tube of a different diameter
or wall thickness while keeping the original die pin.

22:24 Jun 28, 2016 

It appears only in the headers. For example: Die Land Length to produce Pet or Fish food

Then it goes on: As you read in part 1 of this blog, we discussed the current desire to eat healthier which has resulted in an increased demand for textured soy protein (TSP) as a protein replacement due to its affordability and ability to blend well.

22:21 Jun 28, 2016 

where "Die Land Lenght" appears? That is, the sentence or the paragraph would help to give you a better answer.