neither wind nor wave shall move us

Latin translation: Non fluctu nec flatu movetur

01:41 Oct 7, 2008
English to Latin translations [Non-PRO]
Art/Literary - Genealogy / family crests
English term or phrase: neither wind nor wave shall move us
I am researching an old family crest from Browsholme in Devonshire, England. From what I can piece together, the original is "Nec Fluctu Nec Flatu....." but I have not come across a good translation for the end. THe original source material I was using has since been destroyed, but a relative made this rendering:

http://edparkerfamily.org/coatarms.jpg

I believe the last word in this image is "movembur"? I am not much with latin so I do not know how accurate or grammatically correct this is. Any help as to the correctness of this translation or help reworking it would be much appreciated.
Austin Parker
Latin translation:Non fluctu nec flatu movetur
Explanation:
There are several variants of this motto. For example:

HTBCeilingMotto: Non tluctu nec tlatu movetur [usually non fluctu nec flatu movetur]. ..... Motto: Nec fluctu nec flatu mobetur. For Thomas Goulbourne Parker of ...
members.aol.com/htblackburn/htbceiling.htm - 74k - Cached - Similar pages

Latin Proverbs, Mottoes, Phrases, and Words: Group N (classical ...Non fluctu nec flatu movetur. He is not moved by either wave nor wind. Non ignara mali, miseris succurrere disco. No stranger to misfortune myself, ...
www.wordinfo.info/words/index/info/view_unit/3475/5/?spage=... - 13k - Cached - Similar pages

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Haven't you seen this?

[RTF] THREE RICHARD PARKERS OF VA. Richard Parker of Browsholme--Eng. to ...File Format: Rich Text Format - View as HTML
Motto, "Non fluctu nec flatu movetur--Parkers of Browsholme." (unmoved by either wave or wind). MY VIEW OF DR. RICHARD PARKER. by Waunita Powell ...
www.browsholme.co.uk/3 R Parkers.rtf - Similar pages
by MJ Hunt - Related articles

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That last webref has the following heraldic description of your coat of arms:
"Vert., a chevron between three stags' heads, caboshed or. Crest, on a chapeau a stag trippant ppr. Motto, "Non fluctu nec flatu movetur--Parkers of Browsholme." (unmoved by either wave or wind)."
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Non fluctu nec flatu movetur


Explanation:
There are several variants of this motto. For example:

HTBCeilingMotto: Non tluctu nec tlatu movetur [usually non fluctu nec flatu movetur]. ..... Motto: Nec fluctu nec flatu mobetur. For Thomas Goulbourne Parker of ...
members.aol.com/htblackburn/htbceiling.htm - 74k - Cached - Similar pages

Latin Proverbs, Mottoes, Phrases, and Words: Group N (classical ...Non fluctu nec flatu movetur. He is not moved by either wave nor wind. Non ignara mali, miseris succurrere disco. No stranger to misfortune myself, ...
www.wordinfo.info/words/index/info/view_unit/3475/5/?spage=... - 13k - Cached - Similar pages

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Note added at 18 mins (2008-10-07 02:00:32 GMT)
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Haven't you seen this?

[RTF] THREE RICHARD PARKERS OF VA. Richard Parker of Browsholme--Eng. to ...File Format: Rich Text Format - View as HTML
Motto, "Non fluctu nec flatu movetur--Parkers of Browsholme." (unmoved by either wave or wind). MY VIEW OF DR. RICHARD PARKER. by Waunita Powell ...
www.browsholme.co.uk/3 R Parkers.rtf - Similar pages
by MJ Hunt - Related articles

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Note added at 22 mins (2008-10-07 02:04:02 GMT)
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That last webref has the following heraldic description of your coat of arms:
"Vert., a chevron between three stags' heads, caboshed or. Crest, on a chapeau a stag trippant ppr. Motto, "Non fluctu nec flatu movetur--Parkers of Browsholme." (unmoved by either wave or wind)."

Jennifer Levey
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Thank you.

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neutral  Joseph Brazauskas: 'Nec' for 'non' seems pretty clear to me and the tense of the verb is present. But I agree with your general interpretation.
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Nec fluctu nec flatu movetur.


Explanation:
So I read it. But it means 'It [i.e., the family or clan] will be moved neither by wave nor gust'.

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Note added at 10 hrs (2008-10-07 12:20:29 GMT)
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Actually, the verb is present, not future, and the translation should be 'It is moved neither by wave nor gust'. 'Ventus' is the usual word for 'wind'; 'flatus' and 'flamen' mean 'gust or blast of wind'.

Joseph Brazauskas
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