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Estate and interest

German translation: Besitzverhältnis(se) bzw. - recht

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English term or phrase:Estate (e.g. freehold) and interest (e.g. leasehold)
German translation:Besitzverhältnis(se) bzw. - recht
Entered by: Adrian MM.

11:40 Sep 17, 2019
English to German translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Real Estate / Land transfers
English term or phrase: Estate and interest
This is on a land transfer certificate, items listed numerically.
1. Land
2. Estate and interest
3. Transferor
4. Transferee etc.

How would one translate estate and interest in this context?
Vermögen and Nutzniessung?
Or is Grundpfandrecht meant here?
I also decided against using Nachlass as one can't transfer a Nachlass, right?

Thanks in advance.
Monika C
Local time: 22:55
Besitzverhältnis(se) bzw. - recht
Explanation:
I assume this is Australia. A UK land (or charge = with mortgages) cert. - even on e-conveyancing - would not read that way. Otherwise, a complex English Common Law - land law - issue.

estate here: not deceaseed's (US. decedent's) as a Nachlaßvermögen but e.g. ultimately by the GB Monarchy !; or. next down, a fee simple absolute in possession > mediaeval for freehold/ Grundbesitz; a term of years/ ein Miet-/(AUT) Bestandverhältnis.

There is 'privity of contract' (ein Vertragsrechtsverhältnis) between a head landlord or - lady and a tenant. There is privity of 'estate' (ung. ein Besitzverhältnis) - but not prvity of contract (none made) - between a head landlord and a subtenant.

Interest (Eigentumsrecht) 'carved thereout' (out of the freehold > ung. Grundbesitz) e.g. a long building lease(hold) > ein Erbbaurecht or (weak) possessory leasehold: ung. Mietverhältnis auf Zeit.

PS There is or used to be a dual-qualified German/ New Zealand Woman Solicitor on ProZ who can probably explain this better for consumption 'Down Under'...

Alles klar?






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Note added at 20 hrs (2019-09-18 08:31:59 GMT)
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In a nutshell/ zusammenfassend: compare a freehold estate and a leasehold interest in such,
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Adrian MM.
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Thank you so much for your explanations, it helped me to understand it in context.And you were, right, it is a land transfer in AUS! Thanks again, much appreciated.
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(Oz/NZ) estate and interest; (UK land) tenure
Besitzverhältnis(se) bzw. - recht


Explanation:
I assume this is Australia. A UK land (or charge = with mortgages) cert. - even on e-conveyancing - would not read that way. Otherwise, a complex English Common Law - land law - issue.

estate here: not deceaseed's (US. decedent's) as a Nachlaßvermögen but e.g. ultimately by the GB Monarchy !; or. next down, a fee simple absolute in possession > mediaeval for freehold/ Grundbesitz; a term of years/ ein Miet-/(AUT) Bestandverhältnis.

There is 'privity of contract' (ein Vertragsrechtsverhältnis) between a head landlord or - lady and a tenant. There is privity of 'estate' (ung. ein Besitzverhältnis) - but not prvity of contract (none made) - between a head landlord and a subtenant.

Interest (Eigentumsrecht) 'carved thereout' (out of the freehold > ung. Grundbesitz) e.g. a long building lease(hold) > ein Erbbaurecht or (weak) possessory leasehold: ung. Mietverhältnis auf Zeit.

PS There is or used to be a dual-qualified German/ New Zealand Woman Solicitor on ProZ who can probably explain this better for consumption 'Down Under'...

Alles klar?






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Note added at 20 hrs (2019-09-18 08:31:59 GMT)
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In a nutshell/ zusammenfassend: compare a freehold estate and a leasehold interest in such,

Example sentence(s):
  • Oz: ESTATE AND INTEREST (Note 2). TRANSFEROR (Note 3). CONSIDERATION
  • A fee simple estate in land is the highest form of ownership recognized by law, but it's still subject to some limitations provided by other laws.

    Reference: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english-to-german/law-contracts/13...
Adrian MM.
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Thank you so much for your explanations, it helped me to understand it in context.And you were, right, it is a land transfer in AUS! Thanks again, much appreciated.
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