afnamelocatie

English translation: (.... is responsible for invigilation at) the place where the test(s) takes place

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Dutch term or phrase:	afnamelocatie
English translation:	(.... is responsible for invigilation at) the place where the test(s) takes place
Entered by:	darren flynn

22:14 Jun 26, 2016

Dutch to English translations [PRO]
Education / Pedagogy

Dutch term or phrase: afnamelocatie

De praktijkbegeleider is verantwoordelijk voor de begeleiding van de Proeve van Bekwaamheid op de afnamelocatie.

Term appears in a document about procedure of proof of competence test. It is partly done in a practical situation at a company and then a final interview.
I thought it might be "examination centre"

There is another reference within the document to afnameprocess...

U bewaakt het afnameproces en als daartoe reden is, grijpt u in of besluit u de Proeve van Bekwaamheid voortijdig te beëindigen.
which I translated as..
You monitor the deterioration of the process and if there is reason, you intervene or decide to prematurely end the Proof of Competence test.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

darren flynn KudoZ activity Questions: 2 (none open) Answers: 0 Netherlands
Local time: 20:37

(.... is responsible for invigilation at) the place where the test(s) takes place

Explanation:
that'll cover everything, might be a classroom, or practical test, or whatever

Selected response from:

Richard Purdom
Portugal
Local time: 19:37

Grading comment

Richard,
I agree with your interpretation and I also see the merit of Tina's comment.
Thanks very much for your help and time.

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(.... is responsible for invigilation at) the place where the test(s) takes place

Richard Purdom

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refs

Michael Beijer

Discussion entries: 12

Barend van Zadelhoff

Netherlands

1 or 2

13:25 Jul 1, 2016

1) afnamelocatie --> administration site
2) afnamelocatie --> assessment site

Barend van Zadelhoff

Netherlands

13:08 Jul 1, 2016

You selected one possible reading, which was no answer to your question by the way, and used a completely different translation choice in your final version:

afnameproces - assessment process

I suppose you now ended up with

assessment site/location - afnamelocatie

to maintain consistency, didn't you?

darren flynn

Netherlands

ASKER

09:17 Jul 1, 2016

Textpertise,

You are absolutely correct about deterioration being incorrect. My final revision of that phrase was..

U bewaakt het afnameproces en als daartoe reden is, grijpt u in of besluit u de Proeve van Bekwaamheid voortijdig te beëindigen.

You monitor the assessment process and if there is reason, you can intervene or decide to prematurely end the Proof of Competence test.

Barend van Zadelhoff

Netherlands

Something...

15:16 Jun 27, 2016

...that seems to be very pertinent to this question and possibly helpful to the asker:

Proeve van Bekwaamheid

http://www.proz.com/kudoz/dutch_to_english/sports_fitness_re...

Barend van Zadelhoff

Netherlands

23:13 Jun 26, 2016

I do think it is important that the whole phrase makes sense to the asker, that he knows what is between the lines, unless he already guessed this.

Textpertise

United Kingdom

We hebben het toch over afname

23:10 Jun 26, 2016

My point was that translating afnameproces as deterioration of the process is definitely wrong. Whether you want to translate U bewaakt in the present tense or whether you want to give it a jussive spin is a matter of personal taste for the translator and isn't really germane to this question in my humble opinion.

Barend van Zadelhoff

Netherlands

23:07 Jun 26, 2016

In simple Dutch language 'bewaken' means here 'u houdt in de gaten of alles goed verloopt/naar behoren/volgens de regels verloopt

or negatively

'u houdt in de gaten of er niet wordt afgeweken van de regels'

Michael Beijer

United Kingdom

23:01 Jun 26, 2016

or ...
you shall monitor the administration process
or
you shall monitor the administration of the ...

bewaken = a slippery fish

Barend van Zadelhoff

Netherlands

22:54 Jun 26, 2016

Textpertise, am thinking of something like:

You will/ are supposed to see to it that the test is administered according to the standardized procedures

with respect to 'U bewaakt het afnameproces'

Textpertise

United Kingdom

"administration" not the "deterioration"

22:29 Jun 26, 2016

Your second translation should read: You monitor the administration of the process...etc., not the deterioration of the process. Again, I cannot provide proof of this at the moment.
If you are sure the test is being administered at an examination centre, use that. Otherwise I would go with Barend's suggestion because that covers it, wherever it is being administered.

Textpertise

United Kingdom

afname means administration in testing contexts

22:24 Jun 26, 2016

I am surprised at not finding this in my Van Dale NL-EN. I suppose you could think of it as the test administrator actually "taking" the test results from the subject.

Barend van Zadelhoff

Netherlands

22:23 Jun 26, 2016

Possibly: administration site (of the practical test of ability)

Not 100% sure.

Answers

11 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

(responsible for invigilation afnamelocatie

(.... is responsible for invigilation at) the place where the test(s) takes place

Explanation:
that'll cover everything, might be a classroom, or practical test, or whatever

Richard Purdom
Portugal
Local time: 19:37
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

Richard,
I agree with your interpretation and I also see the merit of Tina's comment.
Thanks very much for your help and time.

Reference comments

23 mins peer agreement (net): +2

Reference: refs

Reference information:
See: Notebook Nederlandse en Vlaamse onderwijstermen in het Engels, K. Broekhof, T. Morris, and L. Stoops.

afnemen

1. (van examen) hold, conduct

de examens wrden afgenomen in juni = the examinations are held in June
de examens worden afgeneomen door een onafhankelijke bureau = the examinations are conducted by an independent agency

2. (van toets) administer

deze toets wordt twee keer afgenomen = this test is administered twice

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Onroerend Goed Lexicon:
proeve van bekwaamheid = test of competence
een proeve van bekwaamheid afleggen = to sit a test of competence

JurLex:
proeve van bekwaamheid =
aptitude test
skills test
practical test
(na makelaarsexamen) test of competence

Michael Beijer
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 64

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