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rundermuis

English translation: Top Side

03:04 Apr 17, 2015
Dutch to English translations [PRO]
Cooking / Culinary
Dutch term or phrase: rundermuis
I can't seem to find an unequivocal answer: which cut of beef is this?
Emma Rault (X)
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:52
English translation:Top Side
Explanation:
Compare the two images and I guess it is either Silver Side or Top Side. My vote is for the latter, but it could be either.
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Wiard Sterk
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:52
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2Top Side
Wiard Sterk
Summary of reference entries provided
silverside
Michael Beijer
Another ref found just by looking on the www (!!!). In Dutch though...
writeaway

Discussion entries: 4





  

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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Top Side


Explanation:
Compare the two images and I guess it is either Silver Side or Top Side. My vote is for the latter, but it could be either.


    Reference: http://limousin-oost.nl/rundvlees-van-superieure-kwaliteit/
    Reference: http://shopintideswell.co.uk/shop/beef/silverside-beef/
Wiard Sterk
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:52
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Edith Kelly: if at all it is topside. but you would never use topside in a recipe. Look also at Michael's link.
11 mins
  -> Jamie Oliver does: http://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/beef-recipes/perfect-roas...
agree  Michael Beijer: agree with "silverside"
28 mins
  -> Thanks.
agree  Kirsten Bodart: Silverside, indeed.
4 hrs
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Reference comments


7 hrs peer agreement (net): +2
Reference: silverside

Reference information:
http://www.linguee.com/english-dutch/search?source=auto&quer...

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Van Dale NL-EN:

muis:

#4. spiervlees = round piece of silverside

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"Dungesneden kalfsmuis met tonijn creme (Vitello Tonato) =
Vitello Tonnato - Thinly sliced silverside veal with tuna dressing

Mabre van ossenstaart en gerookte rundermuis =
Marbre of oxtail and smoked silverside beef

Yakitori van rundermuis =
'Yakitori' of silverside beef
"
(http://doubletree3.hilton.com/resources/media/dt/AMSCSDI/en_... )

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Note added at 7 hrs (2015-04-17 10:11:41 GMT)
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"Muis

EBLEX Code: Silver-side B010
MLC Code: 11241

De maximum vetlaag is 15 mm.

[…]

Voormuis

EBLEX Code: Chuck B008
MLC Code: 12290
Overtollig vet is verwijderd."

(http://www.eblex-bpex-export.org.uk/sites/default/files/u412... )

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Note added at 7 hrs (2015-04-17 10:12:44 GMT)
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"Wat Is Beef Silverside?

[…]

Recepten met rundvlees platte bil vereisen gewoonlijk het roosteren van de hele stuk vlees in de oven en dan snijden het te dienen. Het stuk vlees is opgenomen in recepten, zoals gestoofd rundermuis en pot-geroosterd rundvlees met rode wijn en rode ui marmelade." (http://www.deadreign.com/wat-is-beef-silverside/ )

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Note added at 7 hrs (2015-04-17 10:14:17 GMT)
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Carpaccio van gepekelde en gerookte rundermuis met een klassieke ravigotesaus
=
Carpaccio of pickled, smoked silverside of beef in a classic ravigote sauce

(http://indico.cern.ch/event/71158/material/0/1.pdf )

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Note added at 7 hrs (2015-04-17 10:17:40 GMT)
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Oxforddictionaries.com:

"silverside":

[MASS NOUN] British:

The upper side of a round of beef from the outside of the leg:

Usage examples:

– large cubes of silverside

– Less expensive cuts such as brisket, silverside or topside have plenty of collagen, a protein present in connective tissues.

– My roast veal was three rectangular pieces of beast with the grey, gristly flavour of school silverside.

– But how to make good use of the topside, silverside and thick flank was always less well understood.

Michael Beijer
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Wiard Sterk: My first choice was silverside, but was led astray by the images with locations of cuts.
9 mins
  -> sounds like a mouse steak to me ;)
agree  Kirsten Bodart: Hmm, some of the pictures seem to have turned topside and silverside around. The BBC is right again!
4 hrs
  -> Thanks Kirsten!
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9 hrs
Reference: Another ref found just by looking on the www (!!!). In Dutch though...

Reference information:
Maar gisteren had ik mazzel. In de vitrine lag een rundermuis. Dat is een mooi, regelmatig stuk van de bil, waar Nederlandse slagers vaak carpaccio van snijden of rookvlees van maken. Je kunt het ook braden als rosbief, en dat is verrukkelijk. Lastig is alleen, dat het vlees heel mager is, en daarom snel uitdroogt en taai wordt, als je het verkeerd braadt. Maar er is een handige truc die zelfs voor geduchte fornuisvrezers makkelijk uitvoerbaar is.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/oken-en-eten/rundermuis~a1028161/

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