inplantingtekening

English translation: situational drawing, site plan

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Dutch term or phrase:inplantingtekening
English translation:situational drawing, site plan
Entered by: Chris Hopley

10:51 Oct 31, 2012
Dutch to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Architecture
Dutch term or phrase: inplantingtekening
In a contract between architect and client, one of the things the architect will produce:

-> "Grafische documenten waarmee men zich, op plan, in volume op kleine schaal, een beeld kan vormen van de compositie, zoals grondplannen, doorsneden, gevels, situatie, inplantingtekeningen en basisperspectieven."

Does anyone with knowledge of CAD/architecture know what these might be in English? Google produces lots of job ads, but nothing really useful. IATE gives 'location, stacking, siting' for 'inplanting' in a public works context.

Any specific help or pointers greatly appreciated!
Chris Hopley
Netherlands
Local time: 19:26
situational drawing
Explanation:
definition: tekening die precieze plaats of plaatsing aangeeft

source: Groot Woordenboek Industrie & Techniek / Comprehensive Dictionary of Industry & Technology

See my comments in the discussion entry section and, more specifically, those of Graham P Oxtoby, which I quoted verbatim.
Selected response from:

Michael Beijer
United Kingdom
Local time: 18:26
Grading comment
Points to Michael, kudos to all. Many thanks!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +2site layout plan
Michael Beijer
4 +2site location plan
Michael Beijer
4 +2site plan
Lianne van de Ven
3 +2situation or location plan (depending on scale)
Terry Costin
4 +1situational drawing
Michael Beijer
4installation plan
Alexander Schleber (X)
4Cadastral plan showing the planned works
Terry Costin
3(site) layout drawing(s)
Terry Costin


Discussion entries: 52





  

Answers


13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
installation plan


Explanation:
Since all other types of drawings and plans are covered, this seems the most likely translation.

Alexander Schleber (X)
Belgium
Local time: 19:26
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Terry Costin: Yes in some cases this, and, now many days later I still think this is actually close to what is meant in Flemish but it is in need of a few extra clarifying words, or else anyone might think it's all about fitting a boiler
1 hr
  -> Thanks

neutral  Michael Beijer: I just found evidence supporting your answer: http://www.slideserve.com/raimundo/joint-venture-partners ('Inplantingstekening (bovenaanzicht)'). / It would seem though that in Chris' specific text it means 'site layout plan' rather than 'installation plan
1 hr
  -> Well, you should check Kluwer's Groot Polytechnisch Woordenboek tehn. For inplanting there is only one translation offered, namely "insertion". I think installation is closer to that than what you suggest.

disagree  F Scott Ophof (X): This term only covers the site itself. It does not include depiction of the surroundings.
4 hrs
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55 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
(site) layout drawing(s)


Explanation:
in French
dessins d'implantation


We support you as planner or architect as well as investor and fabricator we creative design ideas and detailed drawings including layout drawings, bill of quantities and so on for floor and wall areas, for your swimming pool project, private and public domestic buildings, traffic building, facades and much more.

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Waarom is dit een goed inplantingsplan?
1.
iHet heeft een legende
2.
Alle opstellingen staan erop met hun afmetingen
3.
De vrije doorgangen en hun afmetingen staan erop
4.
Er is 4 meter vrije doorgang voorzien voor de voertuigen van de hulpdiensten
5.
De omgeving staat erop (omliggende straten, gebouwen,…)

It's a drawing, drawn to scale, showing the layout in contrast to its surroundings, so in a way/sense, what Alexander wrote is also correct, because it is not always for construction as to bulding structures but is even/also about temporary setups, such as for events, that is why it is a layout drawing, as opposed to site, because layout drawing can be of/for many things not only to do with building.
If you study up on how it is used in Belgium then you see it being used for Auto Cad Mechanical Engineering designs, or some kid explaining his/her hobby.

Terry Costin
Netherlands
Local time: 19:26
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Michael Beijer
1 hr
  -> Thank you, I wrote to several Belgians, active in the field, got one answer from the government, not helpful one

disagree  F Scott Ophof (X): 'The site layout is the part of the construction plan that focuses mostly on the physical space of the construction site'. See http://www.ehow.com/info_12024927_relationship-between-plan-...
4 hrs
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2 days 3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
situation or location plan (depending on scale)


Explanation:
Got this off a Belgian architectural office. This is what they use at their agency/office, depending on scale.

Then another architect's assistant in Belgium told me: as far as I know 'implantation drawing',

but I am certain she doesn't know

Terry Costin
Netherlands
Local time: 19:26
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  freekfluweel: Leave "plan" out. On the drawing just state: situation/location present/future. In NL-nl: situatie huidig/toekomstig
41 mins
  -> Definitely would use the word plan or drawing, personally, so as not to confuse things on-site - having a plan which is a detailed step-for-step set of instructions (plan) mixed up with this, I'd use drawing; like the origiinal

agree  Michael Beijer: 'location plan' or 'situationAL plan' or 'situationAL drawing' (following Graham's suggestion)
6 hrs
  -> Good find; I'd use the original even though draughtsman use the word plan for drawing, I think on-site these can get muddled up
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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
inplantingtekening; inplantingstekening
site layout plan


Explanation:
See my comments.

'Site Layout Plan

Site layout is how to locate plant and equipment, site offices, work areas, site boundary and existing contour levels, in order to complete a construction project on schedule in a safe and efficient manner. Site layout plan and locations of site offices will be shown in this section.' (http://civcal.media.hku.hk/queenmary/site_planning/layout/la... )

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*** 'site layout plan' and/or just 'layout plan':

It seems it is also possible to drop the 'site' in 'site layout plan' if what you are talking about is an installation or machine rather than a site or building.

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I would like to change this answer from 'SITE LAYOUT PLAN' to just 'SITE PLAN', in light of Lianne's and Graham's comment that it is superfluous/dubbelop.
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Example sentence(s):
  • Site layout plan and locations of site offices will be shown in this section.
  • Indien nodig maken wij een inplantingstekening met bijhorende schaduwsimulatie voor een optimale ligging en maximale opbrengst van uw zonnepanelen!
Michael Beijer
United Kingdom
Local time: 18:26
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 24

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Barend van Zadelhoff: Sounds plausible. Also, what Steven Segaert says corresponds to your suggestion. Here is an image as well: http://civcal.media.hku.hk/queenmary/site_planning/layout/la... / look at the green line: site boundary
45 mins
  -> Thanks Barend!

neutral  Terry Costin: As uséd in Belgium it is not always to do with sites, sometimes it concerns mechanical engineering auto cad design drawing or a kid's drawing of his rabbit's hutch, don't think Leanne's gloss' entry is absolutely correct as term has several meanings
1 hr
  -> 99% of the time when someone uses the word 'inplantingstekening' he or she IS talking about a site, rather than an installation or machine

agree  David Walker (X)
2 hrs
  -> Thanks David!

disagree  F Scott Ophof (X): This term only covers the site itself. It does not include depiction of the surroundings.
4 hrs
  -> Hmm. You might have something there. How about my second answer, 'site location plan'?

agree  freekfluweel: same as LvdV
2 days 23 hrs
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
site location plan


Explanation:
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A

See, e.g., this site: http://www.darlington.gov.uk/Living/Planning/Planning Applic... where a 'site layout plan' is distinguished from a 'site location plan'. This would seem to capture what F Scott Ophof is trying to say with his 'insertion plan', but whereas F Scott Ophof's 'insertion plan' doesn't seem to be very common, 'site location plan' does seem to be a commonly used term.

'Please note that a site location plan, the purpose of which is to show how the site itself lies within its surroundings, is not the same as a site layout plan, which shows details of the various elements within the site. See plans and drawings.' (http://www.darlington.gov.uk/Living/Planning/Planning Applic... )

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B

See also Van Dale:

inplanting:
3. (in België) vestiging
location, site
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I would like to change this answer from 'SITE LOCATION PLAN' to just 'LOCATION PLAN', in light of Lianne's and Graham's comment that it is superfluous/dubbelop.
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Example sentence(s):
  • Please note that a site location plan, the purpose of which is to show how the site itself lies within its surroundings, is not the same as a site layout plan, which shows details of the various elements within the site.
Michael Beijer
United Kingdom
Local time: 18:26
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 24

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  F Scott Ophof (X): This term also captures the 'tekening' aspect.
32 mins
  -> Thanks!

agree  Terry Costin: but not only this, as apparently 'situation plan' is equally valid depending on scale comes into it too (however these may be in-house uses and still incorrect)
1 day 22 hrs
  -> Thanks Terry!
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3 days 4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
inplantingstekening; inplantingtekening
situational drawing


Explanation:
definition: tekening die precieze plaats of plaatsing aangeeft

source: Groot Woordenboek Industrie & Techniek / Comprehensive Dictionary of Industry & Technology

See my comments in the discussion entry section and, more specifically, those of Graham P Oxtoby, which I quoted verbatim.

Michael Beijer
United Kingdom
Local time: 18:26
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 24
Grading comment
Points to Michael, kudos to all. Many thanks!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  F Scott Ophof (X)
1 hr
  -> Thanks! This is my favourite one so far.

neutral  freekfluweel: Ur OVER-translating. Even the B. hvn't got a cl. pict. wht is meant. Perh. ling. correct, but now U have a term wh. will be deb. by EN-sp. people, prob. with 3 answ. and a dozen disc.entr. Transl. is also mak. things understndble. Just stick to "site plan
1 day 1 hr
  -> Hi Freek, I don't think it's overtranslating to try and find *one* English term to cover all of the Belgian meanings of the term. Furthermore, I want to reserve 'site plan' for 'situatietekening', which is also in the list.
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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
site plan


Explanation:
Ik blijf bij mijn antwoord van vier jaar geleden.
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/dutch_to_english/architecture/2753...

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Note added at 1 day5 hrs (2012-11-01 16:04:34 GMT)
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From my somewhat lengthy answer to the exact same question: "Grafische documenten waarmee men zich, op plan, in volume op kleine schaal een beeld kan vormen van de compositie zoals grondplannen, doorsneden, situatie-en inplantingstekeningen."

Answer:
"een situatietekening, op een schaal van minstens 1/500, waarop nauwkeurig de inplanting van de infrastructuur ten opzichte van de waterweg of weg en ten opzichte van de grens van het domeingoed aangegeven wordt;"
http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/cgi/api2.pl?lg=nl&pd=2002-0...
In dit pdf een schets van inplanting en andere termen:
http://users.pandora.be/predie/bouwplan/BA 070014 071107.pdf
Possibly doesn't have to be translated in addition to site plan, since a site plan does indicate where elements are located/situated/"planted....."

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Site plan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_plan
A site plan is an architectural plan, landscape architecture document, and a detailed engineering drawing of proposed improvements to a given lot. A site plan "usually shows a building footprint, travelways, parking, drainage facilities, sanitary sewer lines, water lines, trails, lighting, and landscaping and garden elements".

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Inplantingstekeningen komt niet ontzettend vaak voor op het internet, en het wordt voor verschillende soorten tekeningen gebruikt.
http://is.gd/q12Xft

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Hier zijn een aantal voorbeelden van inplantingstekeningen:
http://ebookbrowse.com/inplanting-pdf-d333338042
http://is.gd/RDzgql
http://www.mvgbouw.be/wp-content/uploads/ATTENRODE-Inplantin...

Zoek op google naar inplanting.pdf en je vindt er nog talloze. Dat zou moeten duidelijk maken wat een inplantingstekening is. Ik zie persoonlijk geen verschil met wat een site plan heet op wikipedia.

Lianne van de Ven
United States
Local time: 14:26
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 19

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Terry Costin: In this case it isn't because site plan does not make it clear that the actual plan/drawing specifically provides a perspective of the layout in contrast to its surroundings
12 hrs
  -> "De inplantingstekeningen van een gebouw worden ook nog meestal gewoon 2D opgemaakt. We merken op dat een bovenzicht van het 3Dmodel niet voldoende aangevuld is met gegevens over het terrein en inplanting van het gebouw." http://is.gd/e2p8NZ

agree  freekfluweel: present/future (situation)
1 day 15 hrs
  -> Dank je

agree  Michael Beijer
2 days 3 mins
  -> Bedankt, Michael, voor je inspanningen om terminologie op te helderen. En goed om te horen dat samenstellingen overbodig geacht worden door specialisten in het veld (die niet altijd taalgevoelig zijn).
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5 days   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Cadastral plan showing the planned works


Explanation:
Beste,

Een inplantingsplan is in sé een kadasterplan met extra daarop vermeld de geplande werken. Een kadasterplan kan u bekomen via http://geo-vlaanderen.agiv.be/geo-vlaanderen/grb/.

Dienst Ruimtelijke Ordening

Het AGIV is de rechtsopvolger van het OC GIS-Vlaanderen, die tot 1 april 2006 een afdeling van de Vlaamse Landmaatschappij (VLM) was.
Het OC GIS-Vlaanderen werd opgericht als uitvoerend orgaan van het in 1995 opgestarte samenwerkingsverband GIS-Vlaanderen, een samenwerkingsverband voor het optimaal gebruik van geografische informatie binnen de Vlaamse overheid te stimuleren en te coördineren.
Met het GDI-decreet, als vertaling van de Europese INSPIRE-richtlijn, werd het samenwerkingsverband GIS-Vlaanderen omgedoopt en verruimd tot het samenwerkingsverband GDI-Vlaanderen.

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Volgens Onroerend Goed Lexicon
According to the Real Estate Lexicon

Land registry map/plan, cadastral map, cadastral plan

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better sounding and accurate I'd say is cadastral drawing showing planned works

So it shows context (what is s there and how it fits in with the immediate surroundings) and details the PROPOSED works, showing by that what will be placed there if approved, these drawing and plans are then submitted and depending on whether or not the proposed works (construction/building plans) fits in with what is there and what the authorities and local residents want and agree with, the permission is or is not granted.




    Reference: http://geo-vlaanderen.agiv.be/geo-vlaanderen/grb/.
Terry Costin
Netherlands
Local time: 19:26
Native speaker of: English
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