sociální kurátor

English translation: social worker / case manager

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Czech term or phrase:sociální kurátor
English translation:social worker / case manager
Entered by: Elizabeth Spacilova

23:03 May 2, 2009
Czech to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc. / social work
Czech term or phrase: sociální kurátor
Looking for the translation of sociální kurátor and I just can't accept that it's a probation officer (Chromá, Fronek...) after reading this explanation from ABZ.cz:
Sociální kurátor je specializovaný sociální pracovník, který na základě diagnostické činnosti a ve spolupráci s dalšími institucemi poskytuje sociální služby a dávky. Zároveň poskytuje, doporučuje, případně zprostředkovává sociální, právní a psychologickou pomoc osobám, kterým hrozí bez pomoci společnosti sociální vyloučení a propadnutí se do chudoby, z důvodu jejich tíživé životní situace.

or this job description from Melnik:
http://www.melnik.cz/sluzby-pro-obcany/odbor-socialnich-veci...


So what kind of social worker is a sociální kurátor? Caseworker does not seem to fit ...
Elizabeth Spacilova
Czech Republic
Local time: 12:25
social worker
Explanation:
Nice and simple. In the UK, at least - I work very closely with social workers in my line of work and this is exactly what they do. You are right in that it is not a probation officer - they come further down the line once the person has committed an offence, although they work closely together. Also related is the 'guardian ad litem', or 'children's guardian' - see previous kudos entry.

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I don't know what the system is in the USA, but in the UK a social worker covers all of these areas. However, it is possible to work on a specialist social work team or do do a diploma in specialist social work http://www.rdlearning.org.uk/courseDetails.asp?ID=38949 - it all depends on the country to which your translation is relevant :)

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IMO 'sociální pracovník' is somebody who works in the field of the social services, and the 'kurátor' is a social worker, which is a highly specialist profession in itself, no matter what many people may think :)

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Indeed - that link refers to the Czech Republic - I was talking about in a UK context. I think I worded my last comment poorly. In UK terms a 'kurátor' corresponds to 'social worker'.
Each country has a different system - if your translation is not UK-relevant, then ignore all of the above :)

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Thank you!
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Gerry Vickers
United Kingdom
Local time: 11:25
Grading comment
Thanks, Gerry. I consulted with some social workers and they suggested s.w. or case manager, but the latter term is very general and does not only refer to social workers.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2social worker
Gerry Vickers
5social curator
Katarina Kazikova
4social curator
Apolonia Vanova
4probation officer
Michaela Bordessoule
3social counselor
Anton Konashenok
3Welfare Officer
Pavel Blann


Discussion entries: 2





  

Answers


8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
social counselor


Explanation:
just a variant... at least it does fit the description

Anton Konashenok
Czech Republic
Local time: 12:25
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in EnglishEnglish
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32 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
social curator


Explanation:
e.g.

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Elizabeth - Ospravedlňujem sa. Prečítala som si popis Vašej otázky a unáhlila som sa. Neberte moju odpoveď vážne. Ďakujem.

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Horný popis p. Vanovej je presný popis ako to tuna berieme. Ale nesedí mi to až tak na Vami podrobné vysvetlenie.

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sorry - myslela som " Vaše podrobné vysvetlenie "

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-05-03 00:10:10 GMT)
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Ďakujem za pochopenie situácie...ešte skúsim niečo pozrieť...

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pozrite ref - v rámci department of social services sú pracovníci priradení pre pomoc chudobním - ale označujú ich ako social workers bez bližšieho popísania...
http://www.socialworkers.org/pressroom/features/issue/povert...

Katarina Kazikova
United States
Local time: 07:25
Native speaker of: Slovak
Notes to answerer
Asker: Katarina, have you ever heard that term uttered by an American or read it in a book or magazine before?

Asker: No problem, I know I've been guilty of being too quick to press the -send- button :)

Asker: You think at 2 am I would catch a minor grammatical error in Slovak :D :D

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47 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
social curator


Explanation:
1/One who manages or oversees, as the administrative director of i.e. museum collection, library.

2/One who has the care and superintendence of anything, as of a museum; a custodian; a keeper.

3/One appointed to act as guardian of the estate of a person not legally competent to manage it, or of an absentee; a trustee; a guardian.
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Elizabeth, yes I did. Actually, I hear it very often (in my profession as a secondary school teacher in Ontario) when social workers come to our school to help students with problems at home, school...etc. Social workers talk about “our curator” as their ‘boss’ would say or advise as to do….
Other countries or provinces of Canada could possibly use a different word. I hope it helps.



    Reference: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/curator
Apolonia Vanova
Canada
Local time: 07:25
Native speaker of: Native in SlovakSlovak, Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi Apolonia, have you ever heard the term 'social curator' in Canada before? and I understand the sociální kurátor is not acting as a guardian or trustee at all ...


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Gerry Vickers: I'm intrigued - the only references to 'curator' in Ontario refer to museums - I am prepared to believe that you have heard this term, but it must be an informal usage
17 hrs
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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
probation officer


Explanation:
sociální kurátor nebo probační úředník. For example with police: dealing with first time offenders who are placed under the supervision of a probation officer to serve community service order.

Michaela Bordessoule
United Kingdom
Local time: 11:25
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in CzechCzech
Notes to answerer
Asker: Do probation officers in the UK fit the definition above?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Pavel Blann: that's only one of two main functions of "sociální kurátor"
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12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Welfare Officer


Explanation:
další možnost, nicméně v závorce či pod čarou by mělo být vysvětlení, že termín sociální kurátor obsahuje funkce "probation/parole officer" i "social worker" (např. německy Bewährungshelfer a Sozialarbeiter)

Pavel Blann
Czech Republic
Local time: 12:25
Native speaker of: Czech
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
social worker


Explanation:
Nice and simple. In the UK, at least - I work very closely with social workers in my line of work and this is exactly what they do. You are right in that it is not a probation officer - they come further down the line once the person has committed an offence, although they work closely together. Also related is the 'guardian ad litem', or 'children's guardian' - see previous kudos entry.

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Note added at 13 hrs (2009-05-03 12:44:34 GMT)
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I don't know what the system is in the USA, but in the UK a social worker covers all of these areas. However, it is possible to work on a specialist social work team or do do a diploma in specialist social work http://www.rdlearning.org.uk/courseDetails.asp?ID=38949 - it all depends on the country to which your translation is relevant :)

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IMO 'sociální pracovník' is somebody who works in the field of the social services, and the 'kurátor' is a social worker, which is a highly specialist profession in itself, no matter what many people may think :)

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Indeed - that link refers to the Czech Republic - I was talking about in a UK context. I think I worded my last comment poorly. In UK terms a 'kurátor' corresponds to 'social worker'.
Each country has a different system - if your translation is not UK-relevant, then ignore all of the above :)

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Note added at 4 days (2009-05-07 22:10:00 GMT) Post-grading
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Thank you!


    Reference: http://www.prospects.ac.uk/p/types_of_job/social_worker_job_...
Gerry Vickers
United Kingdom
Local time: 11:25
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thanks, Gerry. I consulted with some social workers and they suggested s.w. or case manager, but the latter term is very general and does not only refer to social workers.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, Gerry. So what is the difference between a sociální kurátor and a sociální pracovník? See the definition above ... a sociální kurátor is a specialized sociální pracovník ...

Asker: Appealing idea, but according to this http://socialnirevue.cz/item/socialni-pracovnik-a-pracovnik-v-socialnich-sluzbach there is a difference between a sociání pracovník and a pracovník v sociálních službách.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Maria Chmelarova
1 hr
  -> Díky!

agree  Sarka Rubkova
4 hrs
  -> Díky!

agree  Blanka Salkova
9 hrs
  -> Díky!

neutral  Pavel Blann: that's only one of two main functions of "sociální kurátor"
9 hrs
  -> There is no single satisfactory translation as each system has its own terminology

disagree  Apolonia Vanova: they only work with cases one individual or family at a time. 'Curator' is the head of all, assigns cases to individual social workers, he is the main decision maker.
14 hrs
  -> not true - in the UK a social worker has several families to look after
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