mat(j)esy

English translation: roll mop herring

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Czech term or phrase:mat(j)esy
English translation:roll mop herring

09:39 Jun 12, 2004
Czech to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Cooking / Culinary
Czech term or phrase: mat(j)esy
Dear all, would you have any suggestions as to possible English rendering of the traditional Czech beer tidbit called "mat(j)esy"?
LenkaH
Local time: 22:28
roll mops
Explanation:
In the UK seafood stalls often sell roll mop herings or simply roll mops. These are pickled herrings with onions (similar to small Czech "zavinace")
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Marcela Hashim
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:28
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2roll mops
Marcela Hashim
4herrings
leff
4matjes herrings
Pro Lingua
4soused herring or matjes herring
Jirina Nevosadova
4 -1pickeled herrings
Maria Chmelarova


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herrings


Explanation:
http://www.korado-ryby.cz/eng/cenik_eng.xls

leff
Local time: 22:28
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in PolishPolish
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matjes herrings


Explanation:
Bismarck herring are unskinned fillets that have been cured in a mixture of vinegar, sugar, salt and onions. Rollmops are Bismarck herring fillets wrapped around a piece of pickle or onion and preserved in spiced vinegar. Pickled herring (also called marinated herring) have been marinated in vinegar and spices before being bottled in either a sour-cream sauce or a wine sauce. The term can also refer to herring that have been dry-salted before being cured in brine. Kippered herring (also called kippers) are split, then cured by salting, drying and cold-smoking. Bloaters are larger than kippers but treated in a similar manner. They have a slightly milder flavor due to a lighter salting and shorter smoking period. Their name comes from their swollen appearance. Schmaltz herring are mature, higher-fat herring that are filleted and preserved in brine. The reddish Matjes herring are skinned and filleted before being cured in a spiced sugar-vinegar brine.


    Reference: http://eat.epicurious.com/dictionary/food/index.ssf?DEF_ID=2...
Pro Lingua
Local time: 22:28
Native speaker of: Slovak
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
pickeled herrings


Explanation:
Matjesy s cibuli-slanecky, slaneckovy salat, which I would transalte as pickeled herrings.
You might find on restaurants menue also as Matjesy pork, so I would say Matjesy is derived from Matej.


    Reference: http://www.rybenor.cz/cenik.htm
Maria Chmelarova
Local time: 17:28
Native speaker of: Slovak
PRO pts in category: 4

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disagree  Radovan Pletka: check the Google = pickeled = 3000 hits, pickled 405 000 hits
1 day 10 hrs
  -> What is the difference if pickeled =3000 hits and pickeled 405 000 hits. Didn't I say pickeled or did I. Thanks for explanation.
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
roll mops


Explanation:
In the UK seafood stalls often sell roll mop herings or simply roll mops. These are pickled herrings with onions (similar to small Czech "zavinace")


    Reference: http://www.chefclubdirect.co.uk/en-gb/dept_14.html
    www.conran-restaurants.co.uk/ restaurants/restaurants/zinc/edmenu.html
Marcela Hashim
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:28
Native speaker of: Native in CzechCzech
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  hgrant (X)
3 hrs
  -> Dekuji

neutral  Maria Chmelarova: Exactly as I said. It is enough to say, pickeled or marinated herrings
10 hrs

agree  Sarka Rubkova: I agree with Marcela but I diagree with Pretty. If there is an typical English name it should be used
8 days
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1 day 4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
soused herring or matjes herring


Explanation:
This sort of herrings is quite salty but not sour as many of the above mentioned sorts are. They can be rolled (and filled with gherkin or onions or olives, but they are often plain. They are pink (but it is not salmon). They are typically served in Holland.

Jirina Nevosadova
Czech Republic
Local time: 22:28
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in CzechCzech

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Maria Chmelarova: Because Czech/English translation, I would say does not matter how they call them in Holland or GB.
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