(论坛)马甲

English translation: sockpuppet, sock puppet; dummy account (relevant)

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Chinese term or phrase:(论坛)马甲
English translation:sockpuppet, sock puppet; dummy account (relevant)
Entered by: lbone

09:16 Jul 21, 2007
Chinese to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Internet, e-Commerce / forum/bbs
Chinese term or phrase: (论坛)马甲
论坛里的马甲,我印象中大致有两层意思。一层是指ID。比如lbone,另一层意思,指主ID以外的其它ID,有人喜欢变身的,就会有马甲。第一层估计英语中就是ID了,顶多叫nick/username,那第二层意思,在英语中叫什么呢?

Thank you in advance!
lbone
China
Local time: 18:24
multiple user accounts (alter egos)
Explanation:
...Multiple account login detector (AE Detector) 馬甲監測器v1.03

....users who were posting under multiple accounts (alter-egos!)

In fact, this question was issued previously in KudoZ at
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1294860

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Should be: In fact, this question was discussed previously in KudoZ at
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1294860

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I chose "multiple account users (alter egos)" from your friend's software translation, because I like this translation. I don't think there is anything wrong with this term "alter egos". As you can check with previous KudoZ discussions, an asker selected "multiple personalities" for this Chinese term. I personally prefer "alter agos" to "multiple personalities".

If you don't like "multiple user accounts (alter egos)", then try "avatar", which means "an electronic image that represents and is manipulated by a computer user (as in a computer game)" according to Merriam Webster (www.m-w.com).

This term "avatar" has often been used by a clinical psychologist who studies cyberpsychology and people's online behavioral patterns.

You can visit this link for his definition for avatar:
http://www.rider.edu/~suler/psycyber/avgames.html

John Suler has even written an online book on cyberspace and cyberpsychology.

Try reading this online book here:
http://www.rider.edu/~suler/psycyber/psycyber.html
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Shirley Lao
Taiwan
Local time: 18:24
Grading comment
Thank you for all of your contributions.

Shirley's posts were serious, and she provided a variety of serious options, explanations and references. My investigation on this term was most positively influenced by her studies.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +3alias
Malcolm Mayfield
3 +2multiple user accounts (alter egos)
Shirley Lao
3shield
Wenjer Leuschel (X)
3(forum)mask
pkchan
3(poster) chosen name
franksf


Discussion entries: 5





  

Answers


22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
shield


Explanation:
也许可以这么说:有的人变身并非由于只想换个身分而已,而是为了保护自己的真正身分,不会由于在论坛上发表的言论受到对自己真正身分的人身攻击,因此 “马甲”有保护的作用,称为 shield 应无妨。

不过,实际上任何身分最终都能确定是哪个真正的人,多少马甲都不会有太大的保护作用,真正的保护是真正的个人有足够的能力取得众人的信靠和仰望。权力若非来自众望,只是一时据得势位而欺负别人,别人看在眼里,即使暂时不便吭气,但还是知道该人弄权、滥权。

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Multiple identities 或 multiple user accounts 或 alter egos 可以是马甲,也具有 shield 的作用,但其实还是没用。

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Note added at 38 mins (2007-07-21 09:54:45 GMT)
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网络的使用也包含权力的关系,当权者为了保有权力,还是不择手段设计打破马甲。最典型的是 The Gold Shield Project,又称 The Great Firewall。

Wenjer Leuschel (X)
Taiwan
Local time: 18:24
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese
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21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
multiple user accounts (alter egos)


Explanation:
...Multiple account login detector (AE Detector) 馬甲監測器v1.03

....users who were posting under multiple accounts (alter-egos!)

In fact, this question was issued previously in KudoZ at
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1294860

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Note added at 22 mins (2007-07-21 09:38:46 GMT)
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Should be: In fact, this question was discussed previously in KudoZ at
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1294860

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-07-21 10:17:53 GMT)
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I chose "multiple account users (alter egos)" from your friend's software translation, because I like this translation. I don't think there is anything wrong with this term "alter egos". As you can check with previous KudoZ discussions, an asker selected "multiple personalities" for this Chinese term. I personally prefer "alter agos" to "multiple personalities".

If you don't like "multiple user accounts (alter egos)", then try "avatar", which means "an electronic image that represents and is manipulated by a computer user (as in a computer game)" according to Merriam Webster (www.m-w.com).

This term "avatar" has often been used by a clinical psychologist who studies cyberpsychology and people's online behavioral patterns.

You can visit this link for his definition for avatar:
http://www.rider.edu/~suler/psycyber/avgames.html

John Suler has even written an online book on cyberspace and cyberpsychology.

Try reading this online book here:
http://www.rider.edu/~suler/psycyber/psycyber.html


    Reference: http://phpforce.cn/bbs/showthread.php?t=5119
Shirley Lao
Taiwan
Local time: 18:24
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thank you for all of your contributions.

Shirley's posts were serious, and she provided a variety of serious options, explanations and references. My investigation on this term was most positively influenced by her studies.
Notes to answerer
Asker: 汗。馬甲監測器的作者对“alter ego”这个英文没有把握,来问我,结果。。。你们把他没有信心的这个名字拿来回答我了。

Asker: Thank you, Shirley. I just found it amusing. Actually, it is possible that this can be a good translation.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Wenjer Leuschel (X)
5 mins
  -> Thanks!

agree  Malcolm Mayfield: Yeah. In a online virtual world context, "alter egos"
5 hrs
  -> Thanks!
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
(forum)mask


Explanation:
马甲=armour for a horse, vest, mask

pkchan
United States
Local time: 06:24
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese
PRO pts in category: 3
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
alias


Explanation:
an alias used on an internet forum

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aliases

Malcolm Mayfield
United States
Local time: 05:24
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Shaunna (X): I like this better.
18 mins
  -> much appreciated

agree  Philip Tang
15 hrs
  -> Thanks

agree  LoyalTrans
1 day 10 hrs
  -> Thanks, Robert.
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14 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
(poster) chosen name


Explanation:
User chosen name as opposed to assigned ID by system

franksf
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ChineseChinese
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