pelaires

English translation: wool carders

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Catalan term or phrase:pelaires
English translation:wool carders
Entered by: Ross Andrew Parker

13:37 Sep 14, 2010
Catalan to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general)
Catalan term or phrase: pelaires
I think this would be the 1682 equivalent of a wool factory. One definition I found was "cardadero de paños", so, where wool is carded?

"Ca Batistó fue construida en el año 1682 por la familia Andreu, importantes patricios de la población, propietarios de tierras, pelaires y comerciantes de aguardiente. "
S Ben Price
Spain
Local time: 14:15
wool carders
Explanation:
The people who do the work (or run the business).

ORIGEN DE LA PARAULA- ¿PERAIRE, PARAIRE O PELAIRE?:

Amb motiu de l'exposició "A Catí, peraires", organitzada per l'Associació de Dones de Catí, es van presentar els següents dubtes:

- És correcte peraire?

- Seria més correcte dir pelaire?

- Cóm es diu aquest ofici en valencià i en castellà?

- Amb un buscador d'internet (Google.es) he buscat les tres paraules (peraire, paraire, pelaire) i he pogut comprovar el següent:

- La paraula "pelaire" es troba preferentment als textos d'idioma castellà i rarament en alguns textos d'idioma català o valencià.

- Les paraules "peraire" i "paraire" es troben als textos d'idioma català o valencià i no als textos castellans, encara que "paraire" sovinteja molt més que "peraire".

- Sabem que molts cognoms actuals procedeixen d'oficis antics (fuster, ferrer, moliner ...). El cognom "peraire" és més freqüent que el cognom "paraire" especialment en pobles de la nostra comarca (Albocàsser, Benassal, Vilar de Canes, Culla, Sant Mateu...)

- Lo que resulta ben clar és que les tres paraules (peraire, paraire, pelaire) es refereixen a un mateix significat, a un mateix ofici, el de ***cardador de llana***.



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or "wool comber"

Full text of "Technological dictionary; English Spanish, Spanish ...
Cardado d mano, hand combing. Cardador> wool carder, wool comber. *cardadora ' grueso (w.) top gig. Cardadura> wool carding, wool combing. ...
www.archive.org/stream/.../technologicaldic02leonuoft_djvu.... - Similar

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woof >> workings - Technical English - Spanish Vocabulary
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Wool, lana; carding, cardado de la lana; wool cloth, paño; wool comber, cardador de lana; wool combing, máquina peinadora, peinado de la lana; wool stuffs, ...
www.sapiensman.com/.../Technical_vocabulary_Spanish(W4-C).h... - Cached - Similar

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Refers to the members of the "familia Andreu".

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Oxford SP-EN translates "cardador" as "carder"

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card2

…comb and clean (raw wool, hemp fibres, or similar material) with a sharp-toothed instrument in order to disentangle the fibres before spinning…

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card2

…comb and clean (raw wool, hemp fibres, or similar material) with a sharp-toothed instrument in order to disentangle the fibres before spinning…

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…comb and clean (raw wool, hemp fibres, or similar material) with a sharp-toothed instrument in order to disentangle the fibres before spinning…

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Note added at 29 mins (2010-09-14 14:07:17 GMT)
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pelaire

pelaire (del cat. "paraire") m. *Cardador de paños. Peraile.

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If they weren't doing the work themselves, I guess they were running the business (not slave-owners!).
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Ross Andrew Parker
Local time: 14:15
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wool carders


Explanation:
The people who do the work (or run the business).

ORIGEN DE LA PARAULA- ¿PERAIRE, PARAIRE O PELAIRE?:

Amb motiu de l'exposició "A Catí, peraires", organitzada per l'Associació de Dones de Catí, es van presentar els següents dubtes:

- És correcte peraire?

- Seria més correcte dir pelaire?

- Cóm es diu aquest ofici en valencià i en castellà?

- Amb un buscador d'internet (Google.es) he buscat les tres paraules (peraire, paraire, pelaire) i he pogut comprovar el següent:

- La paraula "pelaire" es troba preferentment als textos d'idioma castellà i rarament en alguns textos d'idioma català o valencià.

- Les paraules "peraire" i "paraire" es troben als textos d'idioma català o valencià i no als textos castellans, encara que "paraire" sovinteja molt més que "peraire".

- Sabem que molts cognoms actuals procedeixen d'oficis antics (fuster, ferrer, moliner ...). El cognom "peraire" és més freqüent que el cognom "paraire" especialment en pobles de la nostra comarca (Albocàsser, Benassal, Vilar de Canes, Culla, Sant Mateu...)

- Lo que resulta ben clar és que les tres paraules (peraire, paraire, pelaire) es refereixen a un mateix significat, a un mateix ofici, el de ***cardador de llana***.



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Note added at 10 mins (2010-09-14 13:48:06 GMT)
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or "wool comber"

Full text of "Technological dictionary; English Spanish, Spanish ...
Cardado d mano, hand combing. Cardador> wool carder, wool comber. *cardadora ' grueso (w.) top gig. Cardadura> wool carding, wool combing. ...
www.archive.org/stream/.../technologicaldic02leonuoft_djvu.... - Similar

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Note added at 10 mins (2010-09-14 13:48:12 GMT)
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woof >> workings - Technical English - Spanish Vocabulary
- [ Translate this page ]
Wool, lana; carding, cardado de la lana; wool cloth, paño; wool comber, cardador de lana; wool combing, máquina peinadora, peinado de la lana; wool stuffs, ...
www.sapiensman.com/.../Technical_vocabulary_Spanish(W4-C).h... - Cached - Similar

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Note added at 11 mins (2010-09-14 13:49:10 GMT)
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Refers to the members of the "familia Andreu".

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Note added at 11 mins (2010-09-14 13:49:47 GMT)
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Oxford SP-EN translates "cardador" as "carder"

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Note added at 12 mins (2010-09-14 13:50:11 GMT)
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card2

…comb and clean (raw wool, hemp fibres, or similar material) with a sharp-toothed instrument in order to disentangle the fibres before spinning…

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Note added at 12 mins (2010-09-14 13:50:25 GMT)
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card2

…comb and clean (raw wool, hemp fibres, or similar material) with a sharp-toothed instrument in order to disentangle the fibres before spinning…

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Note added at 13 mins (2010-09-14 13:50:58 GMT)
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…comb and clean (raw wool, hemp fibres, or similar material) with a sharp-toothed instrument in order to disentangle the fibres before spinning…

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Note added at 29 mins (2010-09-14 14:07:17 GMT)
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pelaire

pelaire (del cat. "paraire") m. *Cardador de paños. Peraile.

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Note added at 30 mins (2010-09-14 14:08:50 GMT)
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If they weren't doing the work themselves, I guess they were running the business (not slave-owners!).

Ross Andrew Parker
Local time: 14:15
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 44
Grading comment
Thanks!
Notes to answerer
Asker: I see, the family was in the wool and aguadiente business. Got it. I though it was saying they OWNED a pelaire.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony Isaac: Well done, Ross! Impressively detailed answer.
22 mins
  -> Thanks, Tony!
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