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IDML file - how to enter a thin space Thread poster: Erik Freitag
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Erik Freitag 
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Dear colleagues,
I'm translating an idml file in Studio 2019 and need to use thin spaces. The source text doesn't contain any, so I can't copy/paste.
Many thanks in advance for any tips!
Kind regards
Erik
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Samuel Murray
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| Copy and paste | Dec 7, 2020 |
Erik Freitag wrote:
I'm translating an IDML file in Studio 2019 and need to use thin spaces.
You can copy it from here:
https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U%202009
(the thin space is inside the box near the top of the page)
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Erik Freitag
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Thanks, Samuel. Unfortunately, the link gives me a 404 message...
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Platary (X)
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Hello Erik,
I think you could give a try to :
Thin space : Alt+ 8201
Thin non-breaking space : Alt+ 8239
Hope it helps!
PS - The same result with the Samuel's link
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Erik Freitag
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TOPIC STARTER | Thanks, but... | Dec 7, 2020 |
Adrien Esparron wrote:
Hello Erik,
I think you could give a try to :
Thin space : Alt+ 8201
Thin non-breaking space : Alt+ 8239
Hope it helps!
PS - The same result with the Samuel's link
Thanks, Adrien! However, this inserts a slash or a circle, respectively. I suppose these aren't the characters I'm looking for in an idml document?
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It should work with carlinga.exe. You once asked me for it here in proz and perhaps you still have it on your PC. Hotstring would be " " (won´t be displayed here).
Allerbest,
Matthias
[Bearbeitet am 2020-12-07 13:54 GMT]
[Bearbeitet am 2020-12-07 13:54 GMT]
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Erik Freitag
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TOPIC STARTER | Compart / Carlinga | Dec 7, 2020 |
Thanks, Matthias, for reminding me of Carlinga - seems I don't have it anymore, and any download links I've tried seem to be dead.
@Samuel: I've managed to find the relevant page on compart. However, when I copy and paste the character into my SDLXLIFF file, it appears to be the same as a full-width non breaking space... Any other ideas?
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| carlinga.exe: It was asked for here a couple of weeks ago... | Dec 7, 2020 |
...but I do not know any longer when and where.
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Roy Oestensen
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| Try copying from Word | Dec 7, 2020 |
Erik Freitag wrote:
I'm translating an idml file in Studio 2019 and need to use thin spaces. The source text doesn't contain any, so I can't copy/paste.
Erik
I find that it very often works to go for Insert > Symbol and then look up the character I want. Thin space is a little hard, of course, since the character map only shows an empty square. Personally I have often used it for trema (…) and other characters I otherwise have problems finding.
It does not work always (it would be font dependent in some instances), but in this case you will find it here:
Just a tip when you are stuck.
Roy
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Erik Freitag
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TOPIC STARTER | Thanks, but... | Dec 7, 2020 |
Thanks! I'd tried that link half an hour ago, it didn't work, now it does - maybe a server was temporarily down.
All up stää bi di?
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Erik Freitag
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TOPIC STARTER | Carlinga vs. copying from Word | Dec 7, 2020 |
@Roy: Thanks, Roy, I've tried that. The character will be displayed like a full width non-breaking space in Trados, so I'm not sure whether this works.
Using Carlinga, I get a character that looks like a regular breaking space in Trados, so I'm not sure whether this works either.
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Roy Oestensen
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| Wasn't sure if it would function for you | Dec 7, 2020 |
Erik Freitag wrote:
@Roy: Thanks, Roy, I've tried that. The character will be displayed like a full width non-breaking space in Trados, so I'm not sure whether this works.
I meant it more like a suggestion that at least in some instances help. I realise though regrettably that it doesn't work all the time.
Roy
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Samuel Murray
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Erik Freitag wrote:
Thanks, Samuel. Unfortunately, the link gives me a 404 message...
ProZ.com forum software monster strikes again... the space should be a plus sign... and a plus sign inside a URL is %2B.
https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+2009
Erik Freitag wrote:
The character will be displayed like a full width non-breaking space in Trados...
I tested it and yes, in Trados it looks like a regular non-breaking space, but if I paste it into a word, and then select that entire word (including the pasted space) and copy and paste it into a text editor that shows Unicode codes in the status bar (e.g. Babelpad), the thin space appears to survive the round-trip.
[Edited at 2020-12-07 16:23 GMT]
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Erik Freitag
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Samuel Murray wrote:
I tested it and yes, in Trados it looks like a regular non-breaking space, but if I paste it into a word, and then select that entire word (including the pasted space) and copy and paste it into a text editor that shows Unicode codes in the status bar (e.g. Babelpad), the thin space appears to survive the round-trip.
[Edited at 2020-12-07 16:23 GMT]
Thanks a lot for all the effort, Samuel! I'd still love to hear from someone who could check this directly in InDesign, but so far, it seems to be a shot worth taking.
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