| Pages in topic: [1 2] > | Could the moderation of non-paying members please cease? Thread poster: S_G_C
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S_G_C
Romania
Local time: 18:06
English to Romanian
Dear Proz,
I have registered with you a long time ago, at the suggestion of one of my college mates. I have used you to search for jobs, contact agencies for potential jobs, search for terms in the kudoz section, interact with fellow translators from around the world, ask for and give advice and certainly more.
But I have never contracted a membership with you.
Because of that, all of my posts - whether I start a new topic or reply in an existent one - are ... See more Dear Proz,
I have registered with you a long time ago, at the suggestion of one of my college mates. I have used you to search for jobs, contact agencies for potential jobs, search for terms in the kudoz section, interact with fellow translators from around the world, ask for and give advice and certainly more.
But I have never contracted a membership with you.
Because of that, all of my posts - whether I start a new topic or reply in an existent one - are under constant moderation. This is so frustrating! I often have this itch in my fingers - like I need to reply now!!! And I compose my reply and I read it several times to see whether it sounds right, perhaps I even edit it - and then I submit it... And then I wait. And I wait. And I wait some more. There are times when my answer gets published after 24 hours!!! Until then, the discussion is way beyond the point where I intended to answer, so my reply really makes no sense anymore. Nobody returns to the previous page or pages to see whether more replies were added meanwhile. So me replying becomes irrelevant.
I have not complained over this so far. I have always thought, well, this is Proz.com's rule, you have entered the abode of an elite marketplace, so you accept their rules and play by them. But the feeling I keep getting for some time now is that I do not matter as a discussion participant. I feel my freedom of speech is being restrained and I do not understand why. Like I am being pushed aside or something. I understand that I cannot quote on jobs unless I add money to my wallet first, but couldn't there be another system of keeping the non-members under surveillance, so to say? Like allow their messages to appear in real time in the forums, but add a Report button if a message infringes Proz.com's rules? Or add a message limit, like moderate the first 50 or 100 messages of a non-member, but once this limit is surpassed, allow the following messages to be posted in real time? Or something else?
I have just run a search on Proz.com using the words "moderation of posts". No results found. ▲ Collapse
| | | | | As far as I know | Aug 22, 2018 |
If your identity is verified, even if you are not a paying member, your posts do not need to be vetted, it seems you are not verified, I suggest you to partecipate at a Powoww in order to be.
I hope this helps.
Regards
| | | | Sheila Wilson 
Spain
Local time: 16:06
Member (2007)
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| Yes, verification of identity needed | Aug 22, 2018 |
Angie Garbarino wrote:
If your identity is verified, even if you are not a paying member, your posts do not need to be vetted, it seems you are not verified
Here's the link to the FAQ about this: https://www.proz.com/faq/761#761
| | | | DZiW (X)
Ukraine
English to Russian
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| exclusive misconceive | Aug 22, 2018 |
Sorana, you got hold of the wrong end of the stick: you're so much especial and privileged that each moderator and administrator carefully and rapturously rereads your posts aloud, prints them out on silk, writes the date, and hooks another masterpiece silver-framed!
Just enjoy your time)
[Edited at 2018-08-22 17:13 GMT]
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The Misha
Local time: 11:06
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| We non-payers are a suspicious bunch | Aug 22, 2018 |
Not only do we not get with the program like everyone else, but we cheat, steal and mooch off of this valuable resource. Shucks, we may even be too smart, competent and opinionated for our own good. No wonder they don't trust us.
| | | | Tina Vonhof (X)
Canada
Local time: 09:06
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| May be impossible | Aug 22, 2018 |
Angie Garbarino wrote:
If your identity is verified, even if you are not a paying member, your posts do not need to be vetted, it seems you are not verified, I suggest you to partecipate at a Powoww in order to be.
I hope this helps.
Regards
Good suggestion but are there any powwows in Romania and how far away is Sorana from places where they are usually held? Here in Canada, powwows are always in larger cities in the east, such as Toronto or Montreal, an impossible expense for me to go to. There must be other ways because I am verified but not through attendance at any powwow.
[Edited at 2018-08-22 22:46 GMT]
| | | | | Pay 5 USD (or buy membership) | Aug 23, 2018 |
Tina Vonhof wrote:
Good suggestion but are there any powwows in Romania and how far away is Sorana from places where they are usually held? Here in Canada, powwows are always in larger cities in the east, such as Toronto or Montreal, an impossible expense for me to go to. There must be other ways because I am verified but not through attendance at any powwow.
"You can pay $5 USD using a credit card that matches the name in your profile" - https://www.proz.com/?sp=vid_application
At any rate, I still believe a "whitelisting" system would be more rational and fair - as long as moderators are rational and fair themselves, of course...
| | | | S_G_C
Romania
Local time: 18:06
English to Romanian
TOPIC STARTER | Powwows in Romania | Aug 23, 2018 |
I see there have been powwows in Romania in various cities/towns. I am far enough from any of those locations. Far enough meaning several hours of traveling. I do not own a car or drive, I depend on the railway/bus system.
"You met--in person--a ProZ.com member who has the authority to verify identities" - I do not know who this person is for Romania.
Will consider the one-time 5 USD payment, though.
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Natalie
Poland
Local time: 17:06
Member (2002)
English to Russian
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MODERATOR SITE LOCALIZER | You have looked in a wrong place | Aug 23, 2018 |
Sorana_M. wrote:
I have just run a search on Proz.com using the words "moderation of posts". No results found.
Here is the link to the site FAQ with the explanation:
https://www.proz.com/faq/3064#3064
| | | | S_G_C
Romania
Local time: 18:06
English to Romanian
TOPIC STARTER
Thanks.
Like I said in my initial post, the 12-hour timeframe provides the non-vetted members with enough time to add plenty of replies. Unless approved quickly enough (one hour?), a vetted member's answer will be redundant in the context.
| | | | | Agree with Sorana | Aug 23, 2018 |
I agree that posts should become unmoderated after a certain number of posts.
This issue also affects paying members as they may not benefit from time-sensitive advice to technical problems and other issues they on which they may be seeking the input of others.
| | | | Sheila Wilson
Spain
Local time: 16:06
Member (2007)
English
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| Time is a difficult concept on this site | Aug 23, 2018 |
This is a truly international website. Moderators may be halfway around the world from you. Hence if you write a post in the morning, the moderator may just be off to bed. Considering they aren't paid for the job, I don't think there's any way you could impose a limit on the response time. ProZ.com staff have provided several ways to get your identity verified. A Powwow attendance and paid membership are two good ways, but you can always fall back on the credit-card method.
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DZiW (X)
Ukraine
English to Russian
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First, the ProZ is no chat and I really doubt an hour or a day really matters. However, it's sad that (mostly?) paying members from different countries (time-zones) in the ProZ biz work as volunteer moderators, with no real advantages, but sheer "patriotism".
Furthermore, instead of ambiguous improvements, the pre-vetting could be automated via a 'blacklisted' keywords/links searching, greatly relieving the moderation.
On... See more First, the ProZ is no chat and I really doubt an hour or a day really matters. However, it's sad that (mostly?) paying members from different countries (time-zones) in the ProZ biz work as volunteer moderators, with no real advantages, but sheer "patriotism".
Furthermore, instead of ambiguous improvements, the pre-vetting could be automated via a 'blacklisted' keywords/links searching, greatly relieving the moderation.
On the other hand, if it pays, then pressing services on impatient of formalities is also ok ▲ Collapse
| | | | Edward Potter
Spain
Local time: 17:06
Member (2003)
Spanish to English
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| Set up a powwwow | Aug 23, 2018 |
Sorana_M. wrote:
I see there have been powwows in Romania in various cities/towns. I am far enough from any of those locations. Far enough meaning several hours of traveling.
To my mind, you have a great opportunity here. Set up a powwow in conveniently near you, and others. It might be sparsely attended, but it would be a win-win for everyone.
Good luck!
| | | | S_G_C
Romania
Local time: 18:06
English to Romanian
TOPIC STARTER
DZiW wrote:
First, the ProZ is no chat and I really doubt an hour or a day really matters.
It certainly matters. If it didn't matter, why would non-payers even bother to open topics or reply in existing topics? They might as well manage on their own or mind their business.
And I beg your pardon, we have here the Translator playground and Off-topic / Other areas. So the chat section does exist. Apart from the chatting I've seen in the professional areas.
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