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Base KudoZ leaders on past 90 days only (specifically for directory ranking purposes)
Thread poster: Samuel Murray
Niraja Nanjundan (X)
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Well, in that case..... Jun 25, 2009

Tomás Cano Binder, CT wrote:
a customer's decision will not be based on Kudoz points only. Kudoz points may help deciding among a group of candidates with similar experience and qualifications, but are not the only consideration for a customer.


....there's no need for KudoZ points to determine directory positioning..any position in the directory will do and the client will find the right person for the job based on other search criteria.


 
Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT
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Suppress the points and you will kill Kudoz Jun 25, 2009

Niraja Nanjundan wrote:
....there's no need for KudoZ points to determine directory positioning..any position in the directory will do and the client will find the right person for the job based on other search criteria.

Yes, but remove the Kudoz points... and Kudoz is gone! Let's be honest folks: I enjoy helping as much as the next person, but if Kudoz points disappeared I would not feel inclined to help as much as I do today. As already expressed, Kudoz means sharing valuable insight and sometimes also some work. I want something in exchange. Call me selfish, or simply call me human!

The information you can freely access today is the result of the point system and a desire of being recognised and appearing higher in the rank. As simple as that. Do you want to see Kudoz alive and kicking, always at your service? Then do not scrap the points.


 
Maciek Drobka
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Experience to the contrary Jun 25, 2009

Samuel Murray wrote:

(...)

If you've been a ProZian for many years, you are practically untouchable (by new or newer members). There is no incentive for new members to participate in the KudoZ competition because there is no way they can ever get to the top or even close to it.

(...)



The idea of getting to the top of the rankings, and winning new cilents because of that, was a HUGE incentive for me when I subscribed to English>Polish KudoZ notifications two years ago.

After a year of putting a lot of effort into answering KudoZ questions, I was already safely in the top 10 for general English to Polish, and number 1 to 5 in my top specialisations. That had a huge impact on my customer base, proving that the effort had been worthwhile.

So my experience tells me that hard work over a relatively short period of time can get you to the top of the rankings.

Maciek


 
Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT
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As in anything! Jun 25, 2009

Maciek Drobka wrote:
So my experience tells me that hard work over a relatively short period of time can get you to the top of the rankings.

As in anything in life I reckon!


 
Regi2006
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Not everyone is driven for points on KudoZ Aug 22, 2016

Giuliana Buscaglione wrote:
Remove KudoZ as one of the search factors (or filters) and I couldn't care less of where I stand in the ranking list

That's a nice suggestion. I'd vote for it.

Tomás Cano Binder, CT wrote:
Hm... Maybe we are forgetting something here: a customer's decision will not be based on Kudoz points only. Kudoz points may help deciding among a group of candidates with similar experience and qualifications, but are not the only consideration for a customer.

In that case, I suppose you would have no problem if we remove KudoZ as one of the search factors (or filters) then.

Tomás Cano Binder, CT wrote:
Yes, but remove the Kudoz points... and Kudoz is gone!

Says who. Has any experiment been tried to ascertain it? Not everyone is driven for points and rewards for something they call help.

But you might be correct that some point grabbers would not be too enthusiastic anymore, but on the other hand, some other good translators would start answering again.

And based on this poll below, 52% out of 1744 votes would still answer KudoZ questions if there were no KudoZ points.

Untitled

http://www.proz.com/forum/poll_discussion/150167-poll_would_you_still_answer_kudoz_questions_if_there_were_no_kudoz_points-page2.html

For more discussion on this:

http://www.proz.com/forum/prozcom_suggestions/305705-improvement_of_the_translator_directory_search_results.html

Verdi

[Edited at 2016-08-22 05:47 GMT]


 
jyuan_us
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Teach this Engish to me Aug 22, 2016

Regi2006 wrote:

Says who.
Verdi

[Edited at 2016-08-22 05:47 GMT]


What does "say who" mean?


 
Lingua 5B
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Reference. Aug 22, 2016

jyuan_us wrote:

Regi2006 wrote:

Says who.
Verdi

[Edited at 2016-08-22 05:47 GMT]


What does "say who" mean?


Here it is: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Says%20who?

Btw, it may be just one letter, but say who and sayS who are two entirely different phrases.


 
Tom in London
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Finally - a good idea Aug 22, 2016

Samuel Murray wrote:

....

I have no idea how people would react to this kind of suggestion.



My reaction is positive. Some of those people with enormous quantities of Kudoz points have not be active for a long time and may have left the profession, or indeed the planet. I think this is an excellent suggestion that should be acted on. Its other advantage is that it will make Kudoz much more active.


 
Samuel Murray
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@Tom Aug 22, 2016

Tom in London wrote:
Samuel Murray wrote:
I have no idea how people would react to this kind of suggestion.

My reaction is positive.


This is a resurrected thread. You're replying to a suggestion I made in 2009. I no longer feel that way.


 
Tom in London
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Here's an explanation Aug 22, 2016

jyuan_us wrote:

What does "say who" mean?


There should have been a question mark. Here's how it works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSvr8ol4_cs


 
Regi2006
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Seconded Sep 4, 2016

Tom in London wrote:

Samuel Murray wrote:

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I have no idea how people would react to this kind of suggestion.



My reaction is positive. Some of those people with enormous quantities of Kudoz points have not be active for a long time and may have left the profession, or indeed the planet. I think this is an excellent suggestion that should be acted on. Its other advantage is that it will make Kudoz much more active.


Wow, even Tom in London, the no. 1 ranking in the Italian - English pair, agrees with it. A big salute for you, Sir.

Aren't you afraid that the No.1 ranking is going to change hands quite often, Tom?

Verdi


 
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