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Glossary entry

Dutch term or phrase:

...zelfstandige waarde toekomt...

English translation:

has independent value

Added to glossary by W Schouten
Jan 30, 2012 15:34
12 yrs ago
Dutch term

...zelfstandige waarde toekomt...

Dutch to English Bus/Financial Law: Contract(s) Terms and conditions
I've posted this phrase because it forms the most difficult (for me) part of a clause in a set of terms and conditions and I am struggling to formulate it into the English translation. Hence: HELP!!

The clause reads:

Voor zoveel verkoper ten tijde van het intreden van overmacht inmiddels gedeeltelijk zijn verplichtingen uit de overeenkomst is nagekomen of deze zal kunnen nakomen, en aan het nagekomen respectievelijk na te komen gedeelte zelfstandige waarde toekomt, is verkoper gerechtigd om het reeds nagekomen respectievelijk na te komen gedeelte separaat te factureren.
Proposed translations (English)
5 +3 has independent value
Change log

Jan 30, 2012 16:15: writeaway changed "Field" from "Law/Patents" to "Bus/Financial"

Feb 5, 2012 11:15: W Schouten Created KOG entry

Discussion

Andrew Howitt (asker) Jan 31, 2012:
The solution For those interested, someone on another forum provided me with the answer (Sindy came the closest here). See the links: http://www.aata.nl/terms/index.html eng/nl.... other eng translation http://www.eipa.eu/en/pages/show/&t­id=93
John Holloway Jan 31, 2012:
intrinsic - or added - value? Don't know if this helps: The passage seems deal with a situation in which the seller has obligations with regard to the goods being sold (e.g,. maintenance) which, if performed before (or during) delivery to the buyer and if resulting in value being added to the goods, will give rise to the right to be compensated for that added value (in addition to the agreed sale price). An increase, therefore, in the 'intrinsic value' of the goods?
sindy cremer Jan 30, 2012:
A literal translation will hopefully help you make sense of it:

[…] seller [...] has fulfilled part of his obligations or will be able to fulfil them, and insofar as the part [of the obligations] already fulfilled or yet to be fulfilled has independent value, seller shall be entitled to submit separate invoices for those parts.

Not intended as a translation - merely to give you the general idea.
HTH
Andrew Howitt (asker) Jan 30, 2012:
@Cindy: No I havn't worked it out yet, so any and all suggestions are gratefully received.
sindy cremer Jan 30, 2012:
Andrew, have you figured this one out yet? If not I'll be happy to post a suggestion.
philgoddard Jan 30, 2012:
I can see why you posted this - I'm not clear what is meant by "is nagekomen of deze zal kunnen nakomen." From the context, I think it might mean"has already carried out all or part of the work".
philgoddard Jan 30, 2012:
So really your question should read "aan het nagekomen respectievelijk na te komen gedeelte", not "zelfstandige waarde toekomt"
Andrew Howitt (asker) Jan 30, 2012:
Apologies - I didn't make myself clear enough. I've translated the clause up to the subordinate clause where the phrase is and I don't know how to include it in a way which makes sense. It's this bit: en aan het nagekomen respectievelijk na te komen gedeelte zelfstandige waarde toekomt,
philgoddard Jan 30, 2012:
In that case, I don't really understand what you're asking. Are you asking us to translate the entire clause?
Andrew Howitt (asker) Jan 30, 2012:
I had already worked that one out. The question, if you read my posting really relates to how to build this into the clause.

Proposed translations

+3
3 mins
Selected

has independent value

is the meaning according to the juridisch-economisch lexicon

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Note added at 6 hrs (2012-01-30 22:33:15 GMT)
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In so far as the obligations under the agreement have been fulfilled or will be able to be fullfilled
Peer comment(s):
agree philgoddard
18 mins
Thanks Phil
agree Tina Vonhof (X) : Fits right into the sentence as is.
25 mins
Thanks Tina
agree sindy cremer : Sorry W - only now I see your additional note!!
7 hrs
Thanks Cindy
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