Aug 30, 2021 15:41
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Spanish term
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mujeres soporte
Spanish to English
Social Sciences
Economics
I'm translating an article on the gender gap in rural areas of Spain and this expression has me more than a little stuck.
En términos generales el primer problema es la baja tasa de actividad laboral de las mujeres en el entorno rural. No obstante, de acuerdo con Camarero (2008), la participación en la sostenibilidad económica y social del medio rural de las mujeres recae principalmente en el grupo denominado en este estudio como mujeres soporte con situación estable.
The way the paragraph above is written seems to suggest the term is used in the study by Camarero but my research shows me that is not the case. Here is another example, which describes three groups of employed women in rural areas:
En este sentido la población activa femenina del ámbito rural presenta tres perfiles diferenciados:
Mujeres con situación laboral más estable: son mujeres mejor situadas, tienen hijos y una situación económica más favorable, estudios superiores y ocupan puestos de la administración pública.
Mujeres con situación laboral inestable: son jóvenes, con bajos ingresos y con intención de emigrar.
Mujeres soporte con situación laboral estable: trabajan en el sector servicios, con un grado de formación medio y constituyen la “clase media” de las mujeres en edad activa.
Any ideas greatly appreciated.
En términos generales el primer problema es la baja tasa de actividad laboral de las mujeres en el entorno rural. No obstante, de acuerdo con Camarero (2008), la participación en la sostenibilidad económica y social del medio rural de las mujeres recae principalmente en el grupo denominado en este estudio como mujeres soporte con situación estable.
The way the paragraph above is written seems to suggest the term is used in the study by Camarero but my research shows me that is not the case. Here is another example, which describes three groups of employed women in rural areas:
En este sentido la población activa femenina del ámbito rural presenta tres perfiles diferenciados:
Mujeres con situación laboral más estable: son mujeres mejor situadas, tienen hijos y una situación económica más favorable, estudios superiores y ocupan puestos de la administración pública.
Mujeres con situación laboral inestable: son jóvenes, con bajos ingresos y con intención de emigrar.
Mujeres soporte con situación laboral estable: trabajan en el sector servicios, con un grado de formación medio y constituyen la “clase media” de las mujeres en edad activa.
Any ideas greatly appreciated.
Proposed translations
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| 4 | Dependent women |
Andrew Bramhall
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| 3 +1 | Women (as) carers |
ormiston
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| 4 | working women |
neilmac
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| 3 | women in the service sector |
Muriel Vasconcellos
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Proposed translations
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Andrew Bramhall
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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United Kingdom
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Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
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Dependent women
Dependent women with a stable employment situation: they work in the service sector, with an average grade education and constitute the "middle class" of working-age women
In other words, women who are partially dependent on a partner's or husband's income for their economic sustenance, as opposed to the first group outlined, who are more financially independent, able to stand on their own feet financially and economically.
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Althea Draper's idea in the discussion box above ccould also well be right; women in caring roles who offer their support to other family members, etc;
In other words, women who are partially dependent on a partner's or husband's income for their economic sustenance, as opposed to the first group outlined, who are more financially independent, able to stand on their own feet financially and economically.
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Althea Draper's idea in the discussion box above ccould also well be right; women in caring roles who offer their support to other family members, etc;
Peer comment(s):
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Toni Castano
: "Dependent women" is just the opposite of what seems to be meant here, IMO, so ambiguous the query term appears to be.
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Thanks;
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ormiston
: From Althea's sleuthing it is surely more a case of female ''carers'
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Yep, thanks.
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Women (as) carers
Women as carers - Oxford Medicine Online
Often women become carers on the basis of family, cultural, or religious expectations. The role of carer may be additional to family roles ....
Often women become carers on the basis of family, cultural, or religious expectations. The role of carer may be additional to family roles ....
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Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
United States
Native in English
Works in field
United States
Each translation a gem!
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English
Related KudoZ points
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women in the service sector
This may not be your "mot juste" but it fits the definition in your question.
Sectoral Changes and the Increase in Women's Labor Force ...
https://digitalcommons.chapman.edu › viewcontentPDF
by R Akbulut · 2011 · Cited by 71 — in terms of capturing the growing participation rate of **women in the service sector** changes for different productivity series for the home technology.
REPORT on women's working conditions in the service sector
https://www.europarl.europa.eu › A-7-2012-0246_EN
... stereotypes and gender-based discrimination by adopting active policies that can reduce **the real disadvantages affecting women in the service sector**, ...
Is there less gender inequality in the service sector? - SAGE ...
https://journals.sagepub.com › doi › pdf
by D Dueñas-Fernández · 2015 · Cited by 6 — **There is a verifiably greater presence of women in the service sector.** Both in. KIS and in non-KIS, more than half of those employed are women, ...
**Social and Economic Justice for Women in the Service Sector**
https://www.apa.org › resources › indicator › 2018/07
Social and Economic Justice for Women in the Service Sector. Event highlighting the application of psychological science to advocacy ...
Sectoral Changes and the Increase in Women's Labor Force ...
https://digitalcommons.chapman.edu › viewcontentPDF
by R Akbulut · 2011 · Cited by 71 — in terms of capturing the growing participation rate of **women in the service sector** changes for different productivity series for the home technology.
REPORT on women's working conditions in the service sector
https://www.europarl.europa.eu › A-7-2012-0246_EN
... stereotypes and gender-based discrimination by adopting active policies that can reduce **the real disadvantages affecting women in the service sector**, ...
Is there less gender inequality in the service sector? - SAGE ...
https://journals.sagepub.com › doi › pdf
by D Dueñas-Fernández · 2015 · Cited by 6 — **There is a verifiably greater presence of women in the service sector.** Both in. KIS and in non-KIS, more than half of those employed are women, ...
**Social and Economic Justice for Women in the Service Sector**
https://www.apa.org › resources › indicator › 2018/07
Social and Economic Justice for Women in the Service Sector. Event highlighting the application of psychological science to advocacy ...
Peer comment(s):
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ormiston
: This implies it's a paid job and I m not sure this is the case. They provide support in the sense of caregiving.
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See definition in the Asker's question: "trabajan en el sector servicios,"
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working women
As per the definition provided above:
"Working women with stable employment status: (they) work in the service sector, have an average level of education and constitute the “middle class” of working-age women."
NB: If "support women" is a specific term used by the cited researcher, I suppose that could work as well, but I would want to define it first.
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(I don't think it refers to carers per se, at least not as we understand the term nowadays in UK English). I've also ruled out "dependent", as it seems to mean the opposite.
"Working women with stable employment status: (they) work in the service sector, have an average level of education and constitute the “middle class” of working-age women."
NB: If "support women" is a specific term used by the cited researcher, I suppose that could work as well, but I would want to define it first.
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(I don't think it refers to carers per se, at least not as we understand the term nowadays in UK English). I've also ruled out "dependent", as it seems to mean the opposite.
Reference comments
11 hrs
David Hollywood
Native in English
worked for int. orgs (IMF, OAS, IDB)
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
Related KudoZ points
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76
Reference:
https://www.eurofound.europa.eu/publications/article/2004/so...
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https://sociored.uned.es/departamento_sociologia/luis_camare...
the translation of the abstract is more than iffy
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https://sociored.uned.es/departamento_sociologia/luis_camare...
the translation of the abstract is more than iffy
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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neilmac
: Yuk! I'll never understand why some journals accept such poorly drafted Abstracts.
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Discussion
Those caring for both children and elders are called the "sandwich generation" in many English economic studies. Could these be "sandwich generation women"?
This does suggest we are talking about women who share being a homemaker with doing a job ...
I am getting mightily tired of thinking about this.
LA EPA Y LAS AMAS DE CASA RURALES1.
Autor: Pablo Martín Pulido (UNED)
Grupo de trabajo 14: Sociología rural y del sistema alimentario.
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Para hablar de situaciones concretas, se ha estudiado esta influencia sobre un colectivo específico que hemos denominado grupo soporte de la familia, estadísticamente denominadas amas de casa, y que está compuesto por las mujeres de 30 a 50 años, valga como hipótesis, aquellas que se encuentran en la plenitud de su vida laboral y que pueden estar a la vez condicionadas por una generación mayor, la de sus padres / suegros, y una menor, la de sus hijos.
La tipología de familias se ha elaborado tomando a la mujer soporte como pieza central del análisis para después contrastar la ocupación femenina con la masculina y las condiciones familiares en las que hay una mayor implicación entre ambos marcos de referencia.
But careful, the author himself acknowledges that NOT all women of this age (30-50 years old) are “mujeres soporte”.
The only point I can be sure of is the age of this group of women, between 30 and 50 years, accoring to this study. But in the "definition" (provided this can be considered as such), the author also speaks of "housewives" (!!!).
http://www.ces.es/documents/10180/18510/Inf0111
Or between 30 and 45 as in this reference https://www.juntadeandalucia.es/organismos/agriculturaganade...
I think the support bit comes from them having to look after both their children and their parents. The age range for this 'sandwich generation' can vary a bit. I don't know if this would have the right register for your text, though
https://www.apa.org/topics/families/sandwich-generation